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Animal Spirits Podcast

Talk Your Book: Investing in a Concentrated Stock Market

Animal Spirits Podcast

The Compound

Business News, News, Investing, Business

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Matthew Bartolini from State Street Investment Management to discuss: stock market concentration, the S&P 493 vs. the Mag 7, dividends vs. share buybacks and more.   Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common Sense⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michael Batnick’s ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Irrelevant Investor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Feel free to shoot us an email at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠animalspirits@thecompoundnews.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with any feedback, questions, recommendations, or ideas for future topics of conversation.   Check out the latest in financial blogger fashion at The Compound shop: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://idontshop.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ritholtz Wealth Management⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.   State Street Disclosure:  Important Risk Information Investing involves risk including the risk of loss of principal.   ETFs trade like stocks, are subject to investment risk, fluctuate in market value and may trade at prices above or below the ETFs net asset value. Brokerage commissions and ETF expenses will reduce returns. The views expressed in this material are the views of Matt Bartolini through the period ended January 21, 2026 and are subject to change based on market and other conditions. This document contains certain statements that may be deemed forward-looking statements. Please note that any such statements are not guarantees of any future performance and actual results or developments may differ materially from those projected. Before investing, consider the funds’ investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses. To obtain a prospectus, which contains this and other information, call 1.866.787.2257 or visit www.ssga.com. Read it carefully. ALPS Distributors, Inc. (fund distributor); State Street Global Advisors Funds Distributors, LLC (marketing agent). 8728208.1.1.AM.RTL SPD004423 Expiration: 1/31/27 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today's Animal Spirits Talk Your book is brought to you by State Street.

0:03.4

Go to statestreet.com slash investment management to learn about the original

0:07.7

ETF, SPY, at state street.com, backslash investment management to learn more.

0:16.3

Welcome to Animal Spirits, a show about markets, life, and investing.

0:20.5

Join Michael Batnik and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they're reading, writing, and watching.

0:25.7

All opinions expressed by Michael and Ben are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Riddholt's wealth management.

0:32.0

This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon for any investment decisions.

0:37.8

Clients of Rittholds wealth management may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this

0:41.9

podcast.

0:46.1

Welcome to Animal Spirits with Michael and Ben. Man, it's crazy. I remember in 1993 when SP Y was

0:50.9

launched like it was yesterday. You know what I mean? I feel like time is moving so fast, Ben. I actually, I saw the original ETF in the theater. You know what? My Canadian brethren always remind me that Spy was the original US ETF. There was actually an ETF in Canada that came up before this. They didn't know that. No, that's a, it's good Intel. But yeah, this is, this is, this is,

1:13.7

this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is,

1:17.4

because of the stock market these days and it's because of the concentration and AI and the

1:22.4

other 493 versus the mic seven. So we ended all that with returning guests, probably one of our... Champion? I think one of our guests who's returned the most on the show, probably. He's been on, I don't know, six or seven times now. Matt Bartolini is a managing director. One of our favorites. Yeah, he's the managing director at State Treat Global Advisors, head of Spider America's research. We've talked to him a bunch. He's great. So here is our talk

1:45.5

with Matt Bartleini. Matt, how are you? Good to see you, my bald brother. Yeah, good to see you, too.

1:54.6

The follicle challenged. All right. Yesterday, I was talking with Josh, and I shared a chart,

2:02.9

and on the top pane of the chart showed the Mag 7 divided by the S&P 493 and that ratio is breaking down.

2:11.5

Simultaneously, I showed on the bottom pane the Russell 2000 versus the S&P and that is breaking

2:17.4

out.

2:17.9

It's a really interesting market that we're living in on, we're recordings on January 21st.

2:23.5

And I said to Josh, is this bearish or bullish?

2:26.9

And I think we both thought the latter that the 493 taking the baton is like, listen,

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