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So Ben and I sat down with Vincent D. Martel, who is the senior strategist of Investment Solutions

for Investco, to talk about, now listen, we get this out of the way early we are on the record for an anti-survey

podcast however this is not just any survey this is real they didn't just say

do you like factors do you like this where do you like this, where are you investing?

What they did was they sat with over, how many investors, Ben?

300 face-to-face interviews across Europe, North America, and Asia.

How long do these interviews last?

He said they last quite a long time, right? At least an hour a piece?

Yes, so they have, and they've been doing this for, I think this is their, I don't know how many years,

but they've been doing this for a few years. Three years. So the data here, the data is good,

let's just get that out of the way.

The data is good.

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