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Good morning.

This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast Podcast.

Today's tip is to talk side by side.

Sometimes it is easier and more comfortable to connect when you are not gazing deeply

into your conversation partner's eyes. Things feel less fraught.

And when you are not looking for fraught, that is a good thing.

I have noticed over the years that I really like running or walking with friends.

Partly that's because it feels like smart multitasking. We get some exercise while catching up.

But also because I am fairly introverted. To me, conversation is easier

when it is not the only thing I am doing. It takes the pressure down several levels.

This is likewise a good thing when the pressure might naturally be high.

I have a lot of conversations with my kids about school and activities and friends.

But these are often easier when we are working on Legos or driving somewhere.

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