Talk Heathen 10.22 with Sofia Spina and Chrisy Powell
Talk Heathen
Atheist Community of Austin
4.7 • 611 Ratings
🗓️ 1 June 2026
⏱️ 92 minutes
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Summary
John in CA argues nature is the only real God, claiming the universe gains consciousness through us. Hosts challenge his redefinition of omnipotence and the lack of evidence for cosmic sentience. Is this a new theology or just a semantic game?
Carib in Trinidad posits a creator outside of time, claiming the Quran accurately describes humans turning into apes and pigs. Hosts note that simple observations don't require supernatural explanation. Is an "out of time" deity even probable?
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| 0:00.0 | For much of human history, religions weren't just making claims about gods or the afterlife. |
| 0:05.2 | They've also been the primary authorities on human behavior, morality, suffering, desire, |
| 0:10.4 | grief, identity, and what it means to be a healthy person. |
| 0:14.9 | If you were struggling with guilt, hearing voices, experiencing depression, or trying to |
| 0:19.9 | understand your place in the world, |
| 0:21.8 | the answer has been much more likely to come from a shaman or a priest than any kind of clinician. |
| 0:27.7 | Then something changed. |
| 0:29.7 | As science began to explain more of the natural world, religion gradually lost its authority |
| 0:34.7 | over questions of astronomy and geology and biology. And then a hundred |
| 0:39.8 | years ago, psychology represented a new challenge because it moved into territory that many |
| 0:45.2 | religious traditions had long considered their own. The mind, the self, the soul. Ignoring |
| 0:52.8 | whether suffering was caused by sin, psychology asked about trauma. Instead of asking |
| 0:58.7 | whether behavior was morally wrong, it asked about where that behavior came from and what it might |
| 1:04.6 | be propping up. No longer assuming a divine purpose or evil temptation behind every thought and feeling, it treated human experience |
| 1:12.9 | as something that could be studied, measured, and possibly understood. Modern culture fails to |
| 1:20.2 | account for just how radical this break from orthodoxy really is, or how genuinely upstart and |
| 1:26.1 | hampered cutting-edge psychology remains even today. |
| 1:30.3 | Whether it's the Catholic that decries mental health care as satanic, or the Protestant's |
| 1:35.6 | insistence on self-reliance, or the institutional barriers to gender, psychedelic, or sexuality |
| 1:41.8 | research, psychology remains in a front to much of religious |
| 1:46.3 | tradition. Is this brave new world really ready to embrace the soft sciences on this side of the |
| 1:53.5 | Galilean spirit? Or are we fools to imagine that laboratories have anything to teach us about what it |
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