Religious fanatics see no issue engaging in the vilous sexism and racism and general malevolent foolishness, provided that they can end the phrase with, but Jesus, once I was hanging out with my uncle and a friend of his and they thought it would be super fun to start telling horrible racist and sexist jokes. I out loud said, ugh, gross. And then I was told that it was weird that I was

objecting because I was white, that it's just a joke. I shouldn't take it so seriously,

that they knew people who fit into the punchline of the joke that fit those stereotypes. So it was

okay, which is really sort of an admission that they actually

believed what they were saying. And they topped it all off with someone looking directly

into my eyes and saying, but what really matters the most to me is someone's relationship with

Jesus Christ. I feel like I see that a lot today. You can just say anything. You can be as unhinged as possible.

Provided you end it with, but Jesus, almost as though it's a challenge to put the person you're

talking with on the back foot, as though now they have to argue with your whole religion when really

they just objected to you saying something horrible and disgusting. So, I mean, hey, that's pretty gross. We, I find it really

confusing when I'm thinking about this because it, we are told we're the blasphemers. We're told

that we are the ones who have no morality and that those with morals are the ones who belong to

religion. So I find this confusing. If you want a call and set me straight and let me know,

like that these things actually are,

I'm completely wrong about all of them,

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Welcome, everybody. Today is April 27th, 2025. How did it already get to April? It feels simultaneously like it's been two weeks into 2025 and also that it's been four years. But anyway, it is April 27th.

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I'm not. I'm excited. I'm, I'm nearly graduating from a grad program getting there.

So, you know, I'm kind of bragging about that a little bit because I kept forgetting to tell people.

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