Talk Heathen 07.32 with Richard Gilliver and ObjectivelyDan
Talk Heathen
Atheist Community of Austin
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🗓️ 14 August 2023
⏱️ 112 minutes
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Summary
Muji in Europe asks what issues atheists have with god wanting people to do good deeds, like love one another and give to charities? It’s not all good… Non-believers don’t believe gods exist and can do all those same good deeds, sans holy book. The quran supports the owning of human beings and child marriage! That’s straight up immoral and we reject that “holy” book.
Nataka in NY wants to talk about free will. There are categories within free will, the hosts tend to lean more toward determinism. Humans are simply physical beings in a physical system so anything we do is physical as well. There is no good evidence of anything supernatural.
Mike in WA disagrees with our weekly poll, proclaiming god is not evil but hates queer people. (yay, random transphobia. ugh) Well, hell is super evil. Why does god allow that much evil? Why does god slaughter people? Under your definition as evil is something we don’t want done to yourself, your god is evil.
Ahmed in Bangladesh purports there are scientific miracles in the quran, like allah referencing the big bang and creating every creature from water. This is post hoc rationalization. In this case, applying gained knowledge to ancient written text. Big Bang does not equal “heavens and Earth”.
Meryssa in UT is leaning more atheistic but thinks there is a small possibility there is something supernatural and a divine experience could change her mind. We haven’t experienced anything divine and there are no compelling arguments otherwise. We don’t think someone shouldn’t believe anything without good evidence.
Otari in Georgia claims the problem of evil is a good argument to prove god. A god isn’t necessary to know what is right and wrong. We can still make moral judgements even if objective morality exists or not. Even if a god exists, doesn’t mean they are good.
Nick in OH asks why humans categorize animals in this “can harm and can’t harm”. We agree harming animals for no reason is bad. Hard to sum this call up. This call dives into arguments regarding ethical vs unethical treatment, analogies to eating humans, economic impacts, and more.
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| 0:00.0 | The Buddha said, having known with my awareness the train of thought in Bacca Brahma's awareness, |
| 0:06.4 | as a strong man would extend his flexed arm, or flex his extended arm, |
| 0:11.5 | vanishing into the root of the royal sala tree in the subargo forest in Elkharta, |
| 0:16.5 | and appear in that Brahma world. Barka Brahma saw me coming in the distance, and on seeing me, |
| 0:22.2 | said, come, good sir, you are welcome. Good sir, it has been long, good sir, since you arranged to |
| 0:28.5 | come here. No, buddha? No, you cannot read minds or vanish from earth and appear in heaven to |
| 0:34.6 | talk to the gods. If you think you can prove the supernatural in your religion, |
| 0:39.2 | or if you think that Buddhism is just a philosophy and doesn't contain supernatural claims, |
| 0:44.8 | then give us a call, because the show is starting right now. |
| 0:57.8 | Hello, hello, welcome to Talk Heathen. |
| 1:02.9 | This is Sunday, August 13th, 2023, and I'm your host, Richard Gilliver. |
| 1:06.7 | And joining me today is the very wonderful Dan. |
| 1:08.2 | How are you, Dan? |
| 1:08.9 | What's up? |
| 1:09.5 | I'm good. |
| 1:10.4 | What's at Ricardo? |
| 1:28.3 | Ricardo G, is I like to say? Ricardo G. Yes. Ricardo G. I am very, very well. Thank you. I've been doing lots and lots of things this weekend. So I haven't had a minute to sit now. But that's all good. Dive straight in and let's get some things done. Let's just start with the announcements. |
| 1:31.3 | Talk Heathen is a product of the atheist community of Austin. |
| 1:34.3 | This is a 501C3 nonprofit organization, |
| 1:37.8 | and it is dedicated to the promotion of atheism, critical thinking, |
| 1:41.4 | secular humanism, and the separation of religion and government. |
| 1:45.7 | Talk Heathen is a live calling show and we have open lines. |
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