Talk Heathen 06.47 11-20-2022 with ObjectivelyDan and Forrest Valkai
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🗓️ 21 November 2022
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First is Tom from MI who identifies as a deist and believes god exists but is not involved in his life. He is hopeful and wishful that god exists because it makes him happy. Why should we believe god exists? Does wishing something to be true make it true? Would you use this line of thinking for anything else? Do you actually believe this as a fact or is it just something that makes you happy? Does it matter that things are true? We don’t just believe stuff because it makes us happy, even if it feels good. There must be some reality in there somewhere.
David from CA wants to give the hosts a chance to prove evolution since no one has ever heard of it in history. We have mountains of proof and this is one of the most well documented theories in science. Why should we care what one person’s family thinks about evolution? If the Bible has no mention of something does that mean it does not exist? Individuals don’t evolve; it is the whole population. When an advantage is gained in one environment, fitness is lost in another environment. As Forrest calmly describes how things work, the caller insists that it is all science fiction. He also thinks the planet was designed for humans and does not understand why we protect endangered species. Does the puddle say that this hole in the ground was designed for me? The hosts ask the caller how radiometric dating works, and no answer is provided. If you don’t understand the basic principles of how biology works, how can you possibly critique it?
Mark in NY is trying to keep an open mind about theism and sees a strong line of reasoning that god exists because god is the explanation for why there is anything at all. Human beings want there to be an answer even when we don’t have one. The Cosmological Argument lies within metaphysics and any kind of claim can be made with this. Unless we have material words, we are just taking ideas out of thin air. These types of things are unfalsifiable. We can’t give metaphysics special pleading.
Yasir from India explains how the science teacher in school would not talk about evolution and tells the students to study it on their own. He has questions about speciation, and Forest gladly explains the steps. There is no single set definition of what a species is. Family lines are also arbitrary, for instance, look up the definition of a fish. If you arrange these tax groups in a certain way, you could call everything on land fish. We are not more evolved than other species. Everything that is currently alive, has evolved. We change the definitions of groups as we learn more. Forrest recommends a book called, The Ancestor’s Tale by Richard Dawkins.
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| 0:00.0 | It's time to get sexy, so watch secular sexuality live Thursdays at 7 p.m. Central. |
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| 0:16.8 | Music X. Oh, Hello, hello everybody and welcome to another episode of Talk Heathen. |
| 1:00.9 | Today is Sunday, November 20th, 2020. |
| 1:04.9 | I am your host, Objectively, Dan, and joining me live in studio all the way from Tulsa, Oklahoma. |
| 1:10.4 | It is none other than Forrest Valcay |
| 1:13.0 | Forrest. |
| 1:08.7 | Hey! Welcome to the program. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. That was way too cool of an intro to have my stupid face up there like that. That's not true. Your stupid face belongs in that intro. That means the world to me. It's really good. Forrest, I'm happy that you're here and I'm happy that you get to be |
| 1:10.7 | Well, first off, this is your first time in the actual studio ever. I've been watching this studio for like 10 years and like it's freaking crazy. It is pretty wild, very strange. It is pretty well. And it's a different experience. I'm really excited for today's show, but looking forward to it for a while. And I hope you guys are too. And if you want to participate in today's show, you can because it is a call-in show. So we are live right now, and we have open lines. So if you want to talk to us, the number to that is going to be on the screen below. It's 512991-9-242. Or you can call from your computer at tiny.cc.c. slash call TH. We were having some lovely |
| 2:03.0 | conversations about how there's taste buds in the anus before this program. Because, |
| 2:08.8 | folks, Forrest is a science freak. Okay. He gets freaky for science. And he will tell you facts |
| 2:14.9 | whether you want to know them or not. My goal is to make you question the reality that you weren't sure you wanted to be a part of in the first place. Exactly. That's what science is about. Gosh, you make me question some things for us. You make me question a lot of things. But we want to question what you guys think about possibly what you believe and why. Maybe you have a God belief. Maybe you you have another kind of belief or maybe you want to know what we think about stuff again that's a good reason to call in real quickly i just want to tell you guys about some ways you can support talk heathen and the aca one of the ways is through patreon you can go to patreon it's a tiny dot cc slash patreon t h um and of course if're one of our top five patrons, you will be able to get a shout out on today's show. If you like the video and subscribe to the channel, enable those notifications, and comment below and tell us who your favorite caller is. I know you guys want to say me, but please give some love to Forrest today. Okay, he really needs it. |
| 3:07.8 | He needs that ego boost. |
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| 3:41.4 | YouTube any money. So just something to think about. Forrest, you're ready for today's program. |
| 3:47.1 | Yeah, man, I'm ready to start it whenever you are. All right. Well, let's get right into it. We have a call |
| 3:52.0 | already. So let's talk to Tom, who is calling from Michigan. Tom, you're live on Talk Heathen today. |
| 3:58.3 | What is happening? |
| 3:59.6 | Not a whole lot. |
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