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Talk Heathen 06.36 09-04-2022 with Student Doctor Ben and Katy Montgomerie

Talk Heathen

Atheist Community of Austin

Society & Culture

4.7611 Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2022

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode of Talk Heathen, Student Doctor Ben is joined by Katy Mongomerie who will challenge creationists to refute crab facts and evolution, talk about trans brains, energy, and hateful atheists.

First up is Humanist Reformation in OR who is going to use the bible to disprove the bible. God made some predictions and prophecies that never came true. Look at Matthew 23 and think through what, “this generation” means. If your religion has room for interpretation, how do you know that your version is the correct one?

Eli in VA describes a link between the brain chemistry of trans people and the affirmed gender. He asks how this translates into cultures that don’t hold the strict views of gender that we have here in the U.S. Gender identity is something that develops as a part of the brain or person very much the same way that left handedness does. Trans people are largely composed of nature parts, and it is more complicated than the binary brain model. Some of it is sexual bimorphism. With some parts of the brain you will find that trans men and women are like cis of the affirmed gender. We know that conversion therapy does not work even through torture and that the overlap between male and female brains is so tight that there is very little difference. This is still only 1% of what the hosts wanted to say.

Rick from Canada defines energy as something that is all around us, comes in many different forms, is eternal, created the big bang, and that the only thing certain in the beginning was energy. We don’t know if energy has always existed or was created by a divine being. An afterlife is a separate claim. Why should this concern us? Just because that energy exists, does not mean that there is awareness. Energy is the capacity to do work, not consciousness. We can detect energy, but how can we measure a soul? If energy cannot be created or destroyed, and if souls are energy, then where do the new souls come from? Why do we need to take the Bible's word for what a soul or energy is?

Hayley in DE observed atheists being loud and hateful when she was growing up (particularly one person) and now views them as the cause of all sorts of discourse and rancor throughout history. Have you encountered enough atheists to know this? It is very easy to draw conclusions from patterns that we perceive to be there. Were these atheists already not nice people, or is it the atheism that caused them to be less kind? Sometimes you can see these same patterns in politics, sports, and other examples in our society. Try and make friends with an atheist, find common ground, and you will find that some of them are okay.

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0:00.0

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Visit tiny.cc. YTSS and call into the show at 512-991-9242, or connect to the show online at tiny.cc slash call sex. X. Oh, Hello! Hello! Hello.

0:58.2

Welcome to Talk Heathen.

0:59.9

Today is Sunday, September 4th, 2022, and I am your host, student, Dr. Ben.

1:06.0

And joining me today is the cooler trans person in the room and the knower of crab facts.

1:27.9

Katie Montgomery. Katie, do you have a crap fact for us today. I do. You're going straight in with a crab fact, are you? I was thinking, like, are they going to bombard me with crab fact requests? So I thought I'd need to look up some. I do. Is that what you want to start with? Absolutely. This is why we're being on the show, Katie. It is my cool crab fact.

1:28.7

And it is relevant.

1:32.7

And perhaps some people who don't believe in evolution could call in and debate this with us.

1:33.5

But crabs evolved like 200 million years ago, which is a long time ago.

1:38.4

And it's actually before flowers evolved, which is pretty cool.

1:42.1

But even call them that, crabs evolved before the planet Saturn had rings. Whoa. I just think that's mad. Like, so there were crabs like looking up at the night sky. Well, I mean, I guess crab's vision isn't good enough to look up the night sky and see Saturn's rings. But like at the time they were doing that, it just didn't have any rings. Like Saturn's so iconic. And I think in Saturn's like life cycle as a planet, it's not going to have rings forever. So we're actually quite lucky humans have evolved in this time window where we can see like one of the most beautiful things in the night sky. And crabs will probably outlive us. Because as we know, like crabs have independently evolved five times at least in like

2:19.8

the history of the earth. So quite possibly crabs will see before and after Saturn has rings.

2:25.1

And maybe even before and after flowers exist. So that's my cool. That's cool crab fact number one

2:30.8

of the day. We'll see if we can cram some more in as the show goes on. Yeah, that's a super cool crab fact. And if anybody in the audience believes in Young Earth Creationism or does not believe that crabs evolved at all, this is a live call-in show. And we have open lines. So you can get your calls in at 512-991, 9242, or you can go through your computer at tiny.cc slash call

2:58.0

TH.

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We have a few callers on the lines already, but as we get ready to bring them onto the show,

3:03.6

I'd like to share a few announcements.

3:05.6

Talk Heathen is a product of the atheist community of

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Austin, a 501c3 organization dedicated to the promotion of positive atheist culture and the separation

3:14.9

of religion and government. If you like what you see on the show, there are ways that you can

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support Talk Heathen and the ACA. First of all, you can go support us on Patreon at tiny.cc slash Patreon

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