Talk Heathen 06.28 07-10-2022 with ObjectivelyDan and Johnny P. Angel
Talk Heathen
Atheist Community of Austin
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🗓️ 10 July 2022
⏱️ 87 minutes
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Summary
First caller is Noah in OK wants to know what the world would be like without religion and how to create change to prevent theocracy. We would have different kinds of magical thinking but we would not have dogmatic religious branded thinking. People would not be able to tell fairy tale stories that justify not liking other people. Get out there, vote, call representatives, vote with your dollar, get engaged, search what you can do to push back, give your creativity and get moving in a constructive way.
Xeno in South Korea is next who wants to talk about ontology where an entity has to depend on another entity and therefore everything is divisible and has an origin point which is god. This is an oversimplification of what we know of the universe. When you use the word, “god” as the origin, you are sneaking in other qualities that are not within the definition. Why can’t this be called physics? Why would there not be a bigger origin point than god? If god has things that make him contingent on something else, then he is not the origin.
Dean in CA is next, who is a creator of AI and argues that religion could be a factor in the creation of Artificial Intelligence(AI) and that some AIs have religious views now. Advanced chatbots will just say what you want to hear while religious algorithms can end up pushing people in certain directions. If we design an AI, do we program it with assumptions that god is not real? Think about what choices you make when programming and why.
Alok in CA does not agree with the binary system of being convinced, and would rather attribute a percentage to his level of belief. If you are not sure, the classic label is agnostic. Some use belief scales to determine the strength of the belief. Just because we are not convinced that Thor exists, does not mean that Thor does not exist. Discovering the reason behind this belief is much more important than the label. Rather than alienating people who are not hardcore anti-theists we need to find the common goals we have in common.
Marcia in NC is a 911 Truther and is questioning why certain key people were out of touch or new to the job when this happened. It is not an unnatural inclination to be skeptical of the events that occurred that day, however many of these claims are truly bananas. That does not mean there were no mistakes made within the chain of command. This is an excellent call for Truth Wanted.
Gabe in KY is the final caller who argues that if we just snapped our fingers and got rid of religion, we would eventually be seeing the same problems. We agree, and human beings want to find ways to have magical thinking. If we teach people how to teach skeptically, religion will start to evaporate. Religion is a front of where social war is taking place.
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| 0:00.0 | It's time to get sexy, so watch secular sexuality live Thursdays at 7 p.m. Central. |
| 0:05.6 | Visit tiny.cc. slash YTSS and call into the show at 512-991-9242 or connect to the show online at tiny.cc slash call sex. |
| 0:16.8 | Music X. Oh, Hello, hello everybody and welcome to Talk Heathen. |
| 0:59.4 | Today is Sunday, July 10th, 2020. |
| 1:03.0 | And I am your host, objectively, Dan. |
| 1:04.7 | Joining me today is Johnny P. Angel. |
| 1:08.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:08.9 | Talk Heathen. |
| 1:09.4 | Hello, Johnny. |
| 1:10.0 | How are you? |
| 1:10.6 | I should give you space. Say hello. |
| 1:13.2 | I'm just acknowledging me. |
| 1:15.1 | Acknowledging you. Yeah. Your existence is worth acknowledging, I think. Talk heathen is a live call-in show. |
| 1:21.6 | And we always have some open lines. So please get your calls in at 512-991-9242 in from your computer at tiny.cc slash call-th. |
| 1:32.7 | And we would love to talk to you, Johnny. |
| 1:35.3 | How are you doing today? |
| 1:37.0 | Not liking third wave scah. |
| 1:38.6 | I'm just going to come right out at it. |
| 1:40.1 | We were talking about this before the show, not a fan. |
| 1:43.1 | First wave scah, yes. Second wave scah, I don't know what that is. Third wave, scah, no. You know, it's not often that we don't like to endorse bad takes, right? We usually like to engage with people and ask them why they think the way they do. I think, Johnny, there was a lost cause on this, because if you are saying like Goldfinger and real big fish and the Mighty Boss tones are just like not good enough for you, then we might have some tension on the show today, John. |
| 2:09.8 | All SCAA matters. Is that what you're saying, Dan? |
| 2:11.9 | I'm saying if your take is third wave SCA is the worst SCA,'s hot dude that is a hot that is a take from |
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