Talk Heathen 06.15 04-10-2022 with Katy Montgomerie and Genevieve
Talk Heathen
Atheist Community of Austin
4.7 • 611 Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2022
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Summary
First up is Ruth in CA who studies science and quantum physics. She brings up to religious people these questions: Did god create this huge area that we can’t explore including black holes, radiation, and solar flares? In a universe so vast, why would we be the center of creation? Why did god not even give us gills, wings, or the eyes of a bee? Why did god create Covid? The discussion led to pondering the types of religious upbringing that can be considered child abuse such as conversion therapy, young earth, or women being inferior.
Next is Forest in MA that would like to talk about bringing down the wall when communicating with religious people. He uses Philippians 4:8 as Hitchens suggests to assist with this process. If people are not wanting to know what is true, then they are not true Christians. Katie tends to not use verses when talking with Christians because they are open to interpretation. Genevieve has an approach where she will ask them if they want to make sure that what they believe is true when there are such high stakes involving eternity. She would like to see an inquisitive mind with what people believe.
Billy in TX states that atheists don’t argue against the existence of god well and just because the universe is hostile, and religious people are stupid, does not mean there is not a god. He never heard Christians say that god made the universe for them and says that most scientists will tell you that random mutation will not get us where we are now. He thinks that the hosts' responses are pointless and does not understand how mutations can be caused by the environment. He angrily wanted the hosts to prove what the majority of scientists believe. Should we contact every scientist and ask them? Why did god just not skip the whole heaven and hell thing and make the universe a giant playground? The two displayed patience as the caller got abusively belligerent with plenty of accusations and ad hominems. Billy, strength does not come from suffering, but it comes from what the hosts have shown you.
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| 0:39.3 | Hello everyone |
| 0:40.3 | and welcome to Talk Heathen. Today is the 10th of April, or April 10th, as you Americans say, I think. |
| 1:05.6 | My name is Katie Montgomery. I'm the host today. And today I'm joined by the lovely Genevieve. How are you? |
| 1:11.9 | I'm so great. How are you doing? Yeah, as people might have noticed, my voice is a little bit |
| 1:16.9 | scratchy. Hopefully, it won't get worse throughout the show. I've had a cold for like nine days now. |
| 1:25.2 | I've tested negative for COVID five times, so I don't think it's COVID. |
| 1:28.9 | But this is like the best of my voice has been in like five days. And it's been interesting |
| 1:34.4 | times trying to talk to people at work. I don't know. Yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah, that's such a pain. |
| 1:40.5 | I'm so sorry. But that's okay. We'll get through it. |
| 1:43.6 | We'll get through it. It won't be too irritating for everyone. But perhaps if any callers call in and ask things that Genevieve is a real specialist on, I won't have to talk anyway. So... Yes, yes. But yeah, anyway, talking of which, Talk Heathen is a call-in show and you can call in. The number is just below, just here. Please do call in and we would like to hear about your beliefs, your religions. Maybe you can convert one or both of us to your religion live on the show. Maybe you could prove that we have a soul and then save it. That would be amazing. It would be incredible. Much better than you proving that there was a hell and then convincing us that's where we're going. But yeah, we'll see. Please do call in. We've got some space on the lines, but the lines may well fill up, so make sure you get your call in as soon as you possibly can. Yeah. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Oh, gosh. Yeah. It's right. it's not going to be too bad. It's not going to be so bad. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. I do hope we get some, some call or some apologists, because it sounds like we could give them some really good advice about what they could say and what they shouldn't say. And you're absolutely right that, you know, the hell approach doesn't really work for me. |
| 2:54.9 | The whole sin thing, not really my cup of tea either. |
| 3:02.4 | So I would love to give you some pointers on how to better attempt to convert people like Katie and myself. |
| 3:07.0 | Yeah, I mean, evidence is a good way to go, I think, rather than the threat of eternal damnation. |
| 3:13.2 | Yeah, that part's pretty crucial. But if you have evidence, please, absolutely, Colin. I am, |
| 3:19.6 | I consider myself an agnostic atheist, so there is always that wiggle room to be proven wrong. So please do. |
| 3:23.0 | Yeah, just not convinced yet. I'm not making a strong assertion, anyone. |
| 3:24.4 | But talking of not cup of tea, this is probably the most British anyone's ever going to seem, I don't like tea, |
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