Talk Heathen 06.09 02-27-2022 with Kenneth Leonard and Student Doctor Ben
Talk Heathen
Atheist Community of Austin
4.7 • 611 Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2022
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
Our first caller is Mike in OH who follows pagan deities, and denies Jesus. He argues that everyone feels pagan gods because we feel something when observing the moon and weather. He uses the ancient people as an example and feels that Freyja resonates with him. How does our connection to nature lead to the belief in gods? How is this different from a placebo and do these practices hold us back?
Next is Xeno, a programmer from South Korea who states that god is the singular point to where we come from and is the cause of everything. He thinks that everything in reality has a cause. This is the fallacy of composition and reality itself being caused can’t be proven. Does there need to be a singular point as a cause and does that need to be called god? Playing the linguistics game is not helpful or useful here. Just because reality has a set of properties does not mean that something caused this set of properties. When is it time to believe Russell's Teapot is up there?
Oliver in Brazil has a friend that believes the Biblical creation story is more correct than other creation myths. It is magical for god to use words to poof things into existence. What about the order of things being off such as plants being created before the sun? How is crafting a woman out of a rib and talking animals magical? All the creation charlatans refer to this despite the fact that everything we know about science exposes Genesis for what it is.
Roger in CA is wondering if we are misidentifying reality and takes issue with morality being subjective. When theists talk about morality, it is about their deity, not about what enhances the well being for everyone. What is the difference between morality and obedience? Morality may stretch beyond what humans can do; we see altruism in animals. Morality may be defined by asking the following question: how do we get closer to some form of well being?
Jeff in PA wants to talk about Catholic Synodal Process and if it is a good idea to attend something like this to learn. School districts are targeting kids in certain areas due to the church achieving its goals by inserting itself into political arenas. There are still millions of people who believe this is a legitimate organization and want to keep it alive.
B in VA has a friend that refuses to use proper pronouns when going into Discord. His friend says that they are shoving their beliefs down his throat and it is disrespectful to have to use pronouns. It is on an individual basis to determine what techniques you would want to use with them. You do not have to engage with people like that. Some people just do not want to be told what to do.
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| 0:16.5 | Music The Hello, hello, hello, welcome to yet. |
| 0:44.3 | Welcome to yet another episode of Talk Heathen. Today is Sunday, February 27th, 2022. I'm your host, Kenneth Leonard, and joining me today is one of my favorite people that I've met in the last year, student Dr. Ben, aka S-D-B. How the heck are you? I'm doing all right. I'm super, super excited to be on Talk Ethan today. This has been a dream of mine for a long time now, and it's here. I'm really, really happy that you're here. I am psyched. When I saw the headshot thing that just came up of you, I, I wonder, like, |
| 1:28.9 | okay, you're wearing, you got the stethoscope in the, in the headshot, right? And the scrubs |
| 1:32.5 | going. Um, do you feel like wearing the stethoscope in broadcasts is like, maybe like cheating? |
| 1:39.4 | It would give you too much credibility. Maybe a little bit. I mean, people make connections in |
| 1:44.0 | their brains, right? |
| 1:44.9 | And they see symbolism of, of an authority figure. And maybe it does give me a little bit of credit. |
| 1:51.0 | But I mean, it's not necessarily the intention, but maybe, I don't know, it helps. |
| 1:54.8 | I have to remind myself to be a skeptic because if I, if anybody wearing a stethoscope tells me anything, I'm like, yes, all right. |
| 2:02.3 | I'm convinced. |
| 2:04.3 | I'm just kidding people. |
| 2:05.8 | Everyone's like, what? |
| 2:06.8 | Come on, Kenneth. |
| 2:07.7 | I thought you were a skeptic. |
| 2:09.2 | Well, hey, speaking of skepticism, there is something kind of serious that, that SDB and I want to talk about today. |
| 2:15.1 | So there's, there's a conversation that I have a lot with people where I get asked, why do you do this? |
| 2:22.3 | Why do you have these conversations with people on these shows where they call in? |
| 2:26.3 | Why do you care about what people believe and why? |
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