Talk Heathen 06.03 01-16-2022 with JMike and Jesus Christ
Talk Heathen
Atheist Community of Austin
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🗓️ 16 January 2022
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
First up is Tristan from TX that has some thoughts about how to prevent climate change and getting people to understand that our world matters. The idea that we can try and not do good enough, is not a reason to not try. Just do the most you can do, and don’t get hung up on everyone else. How would you ever know if it was not enough unless you can falsify the prior attempts?
Next we have Rain in UT that wants to learn more about debating presuppositionalists and what points can be most effectively used. Supply the argument that makes the contrary impossible. Are there any set of observations that the person has that can not be attributed to a god? If one of the definitions of god is that everyone knows this god exists, and one person is found that did not know of this existence, then the supposition is false.
Jeff from OH says the mind and body can’t be trusted and we need an arbitrator because the mind and body are not our friends. He wants to know if the mind can do anything to help with well being. JC says our perceptions and ideas can fail us, though the mind and body are the same. Just because you are confused about something, does not mean the conclusion used to fix it is true. If you don’t understand this, it is personal incredulity. If it is a fact that Jesus is the arbitrator, then how does one demonstrate this and why believe it if it can’t be demonstrated?
Next we have The Recipe from Canada that presents a weak argument about the 7 day week. Jmike asks for the inference rule of this claim. The caller tries to use a raising voice with aggression method to assert that the Hebrew God is what all nations follow because he invented the 7 day week and predicted this 2,000 years ago. The caller is asked if Hinduism is true because of the close prediction of the age of the universe, but that just made him more aggressive straw-manning the host’s position.
Austin in MS does not want to leave a loved one behind after death. Being dead is just like being asleep. There is not really anything to be afraid of, other than those around you that miss and love you, feeling sad. That is not good or bad; it is just how it is. There are resources to help with this fear.
Gabriel in Canada believes Jesus is real because he can be seen on the screen as a host. He would like some tips on creating an atheist group in his area. Join our Facebook and Discord groups to reach out to people within these groups. TikTok is a good one because of the eyes on it all day long; there are plenty of resources to check out.
Last we have Chase in Al that has questions about how to deal with a closed minded Christian family. It is difficult to talk someone out of something quickly that they were not talked into quickly.
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| 0:39.3 | Oh Welcome everybody. |
| 1:00.0 | Super, super excited for this episode. |
| 1:02.8 | If you don't know already, it is Sunday, January 16th, 2020. |
| 1:06.7 | We are Talk Heathen, a product of the ACA, the atheist community of Austin, a 501c3 organization |
| 1:11.8 | dedicated to the promotion of positive atheism and the separation religion and government. |
| 1:16.2 | And my guest today is none other than Jesus Christ. |
| 1:20.0 | I didn't think I'd ever say that. |
| 1:21.7 | So I'm very excited to have said that. |
| 1:24.3 | Jesus, where have you been? |
| 1:25.3 | Everywhere, everywhere, but apparently not in your heart. |
| 1:29.6 | Yeah, well, so maybe we can touch upon that. |
| 1:33.5 | And for those that don't know, I've never been a Christian. |
| 1:35.8 | I come from a different background of beliefs that were unfounded. |
| 1:39.8 | And so I talked to some Christians, and every now and then they tell me that they have a |
| 1:43.0 | relationship with you. |
| 1:50.3 | And I was wondering if maybe we could walk down that because from my view, I find the relationship to be somewhat toxic. |
| 1:54.4 | I didn't know if maybe you would want to like play along here for a second and I could list out a few things. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I can I can tell you how weird it is for me. I mean, the parasocial relationship, it's, I mean, it's very |
| 2:05.0 | strange. It's very strange. Yeah. And well, let me, let me fill in like what I think the other |
| 2:10.3 | side might be experiencing, or at least what I'm describing that relationship to be. |
| 2:15.3 | Persistent unreliability, a lack of communication, insufficient support, ceaseless control issues, feelings of unworthiness. And by the way, you're the closest that I got to God. And if I don't know, some people say you're the same thing and maybe you're not, I don't know how that works. I guess it depends on the day or who I talk to. But since you're the closest I got, I'm going to kind of say that you are attached to this |
| 2:35.6 | as well. |
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