Talk Heathen 05.42 10-17-2021 with JMike and Kenneth Leonard
Talk Heathen
Atheist Community of Austin
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🗓️ 17 October 2021
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Let’s get to calls! Charlie in Texas would like to talk about how or why the scientific method is properly scientific and how it can be applied to accepted theories including natural selection and evolution. This should be an interesting call, though it sounds like he’s trying to dismantle established theories and pick holes in them. Maybe call upon some biologists next time?
RJM in Massachusetts is up next, he wants to address what our epistemologies are in regards to being atheists. He does try to insert a deity or designer into the discussion of evolution and natural selection though. This call is frustrating because RJM doesn’t want to listen and sounds eerily similar to other presups and their scripts. Why is he dodging and deflecting our questions and getting upset?
Meshulam in Jerusalem is wondering about if there can be moral facts in a purely Atheistic world. Can moral action and facts exist in this Atheistic Universe. Um, why not and why wouldn’t there be morality? He continues to beg the question throughout this call, it’s worth listening to though, because JMike.
Queer Atheist in Illinois is wondering what theistic arguments are the best out there. Can we extrapolate and discuss them? Oh, that’s a tough question, because most theistic arguments tend to bring up more questions than providing solutions. Theist arguments have a tendency to appeal to emotion and tend to bend the truth too much. As a skeptic, it is difficult at best to find “the best one.”
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| 1:20.1 | I am, you know, I feel kind of bad, Kenneth, because I'm going to introduce you, but I'm also going to be saying for the first time instead of like scrolling up on Facebook and just liking something. But you are a married man now. |
| 1:31.5 | I yeah yeah I did that this is my first time actually congratulating so I feel like a terrible friend that I that we're doing this now for the first time live but it's it's definitely a step up from like just liking a status on Facebook I feel like I mean you know it's, I feel like it's the same thing. I'm so bad about going like and making that extra step. I'm always just like, click, that's enough. You know, so I appreciate it. Yes. Before the show, I was talking about how I listened about half percent of the time, and I probably acknowledge things that I should about the same. And so I'm working on that. We're building, we're building to be a better person. Yeah, with my friends, I'm always just like, they know, they know how I feel. So it's like, I'm just eating Ben and Jerry's ice cream looking like, what's someone going to find me? You know? Anyway, guys, we have a good, great show. We have some callers on the line already. But if you want to engage in the show and not be stopped with some pesky little thing that tells you you can't type for a certain amount of time. And you just want to help support the show. Below the video, there's a join button. You click that. You will get that perk. You'll be able to talk as much as you want until maybe I'm not annoyed with stepping over that but I don't know we'll find out and if you go below that you can go below the live chat and see that there's actually a donation button for for us that goes 100% YouTube does not take |
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| 2:45.5 | really appreciate that. |
| 2:50.4 | And Kenneth, yeah, I mean, is anything you kind of want to, anything different as a married man or you know, my, my partner and I, we mean, we've been together for years and years and years. So yeah, we were talking about this afterwards, you know, where it didn't, didn't feel different. Mostly, I mean, it's the same. We're just not living in sin anymore. |
| 2:51.8 | So, yeah, exactly. |
| 2:49.1 | Yeah, now everything can be done properly. And then those. Yeah. Well, I think we were nervous about the wedding a little bit because like our, our readings were completely secular and like a little bit unconventional. We were wondering if it would resonate with people, if anybody would notice the absence of any mentions of a God or scripture in the wedding. And everyone just had a great time. Nobody, you know, nobody cared. I was actually going to ask, so not a single person was like, hey, where's the part? Like, usually there's a God and stuff like that. Yeah. Not a thing. Nobody was like, where was Jesus? Not at nothing. So yeah, |
| 2:50.6 | they just wanted to, you know, eat the hors d'oeuvres. And that's interesting because like, |
| 3:41.8 | and I'm not going to pick names, but the last wedding that I went to, and maybe this is just my atheism, |
| 3:47.3 | you know, some people would say getting the better of me. But all I could notice through most of it was like I was like, when are they going to talk about my friend and his wife and this good life as opposed to like this God that nobody knows exists? Like that took up the entire like the entire time. I was like, is God getting married or is my friend getting married? Yeah. I don't understand here. Yeah. So I'd be very interested to see that. We even did a reading that was about like where where the line, the one is a lie, the one does not exist was in the reading. And we wanted to break down this idea and go, listen, this isn't some fantasy land fairy tale shit. This isn't us destined to be together. We're two adults making a commitment. And we're going to change. |
| 3:52.4 | We're going to grow because that's what happens in the real world. |
| 4:31.3 | But that's what we're signing up for today. |
| 4:34.9 | And we, yeah. |
| 4:37.4 | So getting all of the nonsense out of it was something that was very important to us. |
| 4:38.6 | And we felt like we succeeded. |
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