For nearly 50 years, Patagonia has given a damn about people and the environment.

And through that work, they've learned that knowledge is foundational,

transcending physical space and nodding generations together.

Knowledge invites change and forms the bedrock of communities.

In a new series of stories, Patagonia brings us the voices of elders,

young people, mentors and teachers. Stories grounded in wild places and activism.

Knowledge is a vessel. To be shared, kept, evolved and passed on.

Find more at Patagonia.com slash stories.

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All right, Tales of Terror. You've got a spooky story.

Yeah, I've got a spooky story.

So the thing that I feel like you need to know first about my spooky story

is that I feel like sometimes you're in the woods and you think that's

like something feels creepy because you're wondering if something bad's going to happen.

But when you work for a search and rescue team and you're searching for a lost hiker,

things are creepy because you know that something bad has happened,

but you don't know what it is yet. And so as opposed to like, you can't really like convince

yourself out of it the way that you do on a normal day because you're like, no, no,

something bad has happened, but I don't know what it is.

Once I get back up, like, so search and rescue.

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