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Taking on Russia: Krišjānis Kariņš' pitch to lead NATO and defend Ukraine

Power Play

POLITICO

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🗓️ 11 January 2024

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

After weeks of relative calm, Russian forces ushered in the New Year by pounding Ukrainian cities. While global attention has been gripped by the war in Gaza, it’s a reminder that there is no end in sight to the conflict in Ukraine. 

This week, NATO ambassadors met in Brussels to reinforce their commitments to help Ukraine’s air defences fend off devastating Russian air strikes, which have killed dozens of people in the last few days. It's a critical moment for Kyiv as continued military and financial support from the U.S. and the EU hangs in the balance.

In this week’s edition of Power Play, host Anne McElvoy talks to Krišjānis Kariņš, Latvia's foreign minister, one of the contenders to become NATO's next secretary-general, about the alliances's plans to combat renewed Russian aggression.

And Anne is joined by Matthew Kaminski, editor at large at POLITICO in Washington, and Jan Cienski, senior policy editor at POLITICO in Europe to hear our own experts delve into the what 2024 brings for Ukraine — and NATO. 

Further reading: "Zelenskyy in Lilliput: Someone Shrunk Ukraine’s War Coalition," by Matthew Kaminski



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0:00.0

In a week when Ukraine appeared to have turned its narrative to one of success,

0:06.0

destroying a valuable Russian tank transporter ship in Crimea,

0:10.0

reality appears to be a second winter under sustained systemic Russian bombardment.

0:19.4

After weeks of relative calm Russian forces ushered in the new year by pounding Ukrainian cities.

0:25.8

Russia has launched one of its biggest aerial attacks on Ukraine since the war began,

0:30.7

killing at least 18 people in a wave of deadly explosions across the country.

0:36.5

While most of the world's attention is being gripped by the war in Gaza, it's a reminder

0:41.3

that the war in Ukraine continues without an end in sight.

0:45.0

It comes at a critical moment for Kyiv as continued military and financial support from the US and EU remain in doubt.

0:56.1

Welcome to Power Play, Politico's interview podcast,

0:59.7

where I talk to some of the most influential figures on either side of the Atlantic.

1:04.3

I'm Anne Michael Voi and in this edition I speak to the foreign minister of Latvia,

1:08.8

Christianis Karint, whose country shares Ukraine's pain, in the Baltics where Russian aggression

1:15.9

is too close for comfort.

1:18.6

Karen's also served as Latvia's Prime Minister from 2019 to 2023. Now he's making his pitch to lead NATO when

1:27.3

Jens Stoltenberg stands down as Secretary General later this year and he'll tell

1:32.4

me why he thinks it's time for NATO to have a new

1:35.0

broom. Well we've had NATO general secretaries coming from a handful of countries

1:40.8

for many years maybe it's time to say, you know, countries such as Latvia,

1:45.8

we have been now, this year we're coming on 20 years as a NATO member, we're certainly not a new member.

1:50.8

And when it comes to commitments we are about 2.4% of our GDP

1:57.1

investing into defense this year which is important I think for any Secretary

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