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The Michael Steele Podcast

Taking Heat for Standing Up to Elected Officials (Quick Take)

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Capehart discusses his extremely awkward first encounter with Rev. Al Sharpton and the nature of their contentious relationship. Plus, Jonathan talks about his work to save the NY Apollo Theater and the importance of holding elected officials accountable.

Check out Jonathan Capehart's memoir here: https://www.amazon.com/Yet-Here-Am-Lessons-Search/dp/1538767066

Transcript

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0:00.0

It was a moment that was seared into my soul so much so that I have not forgotten it from the moment it happened.

0:07.0

So I was brand new to the New York Daily News editorial board.

0:11.0

So I was about 25, 26 years old.

0:15.0

And I pitched the idea of interviewing Reverend Jackson about something related to New York City schools and guns.

0:21.6

Reverend Jackson said yes to the interview.

0:24.6

So we set up a time and he said,

0:26.7

well, my schedule's really busy.

0:29.8

I'm coming through New York.

0:31.5

Why don't we do it at LaGuardia?

0:34.1

And so I was like, great, I'm meeting Reverend Jackson.

0:38.3

So I put on my best suit.

0:41.3

And it was this brand new suit that I bought.

0:43.3

It was a Christian Dior, double-breasted with a chalk strike.

0:48.3

All the way Jonathan K. Parts going to attire himself, trust me.

0:52.3

You know, I was just like, I'm about to meet history, so I need to look right.

0:58.5

So I get dressed.

1:00.2

I'm so nervous that I'm going to miss him that I get to LaGuardia an hour early.

1:05.0

And for my time at the Today Show, I knew there were conference rooms at the at the Eastern shuttle or Delta

1:10.9

shuttle whatever it was you know in 93 and so I get there I get us a room and

1:16.6

now I'm waiting at the gate flight lands there's nobody and then I realized

1:22.1

wait folks can deplane out the back let me go and look and that's when I saw

1:27.4

him walking across

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