And So, This week I'm with John Heard, who is a founding member of a group called Newcastle United Sporters against

Washing is obviously kind of timely conversation with things heating up in the

bid for Manchester United right now. John thanks for joining me.

Thanks for inviting me, yeah. I'd kind of come across your profile on

Twitter because I spotted some of your messages talking about the takeover at

Newcastle and seen the pylon that you have managed to

manage to gain as a result of that which is unsurprising and I thought we could get into some of the topics.

But first tell us about the tell us about yourself and about the group and why you have started this, probably against the many headwinds given what came before and since.

Well, despite what the detractors say on Twitter,

I'm a lifelong Newcastle fan, you can probably hear from my accent.

I haven't got a son in an accent at all.

In fact, I've got a felon accent and from Gertzad, you know I said that all my life I've been a Newcastle fan and I have travelled around a bit I used to follow Newcastle all the away matches in the 80s I was working in London and you know you know it's part of your life you know part of the culture

It's obviously the same for my United fans as well and I know I've been involved you another life, you know, ages ago with the founding of

Reclaim the Game. You know, I was involved around the Hillsborough stuff because I was like working

for the young socialists. Okay. And we were involved in the campaign against the ID cards.

Remember, probably too young to be young to be young to be young to be young

but Thatcher trying to bring them in but also the Helsboro stuff as well and

and you know that sort was my formation of like the politics and

football you know and one of the things I was always into was like having greater

ownership for fans you know and basically you know at the end of the day I'm in favor of like fan ownership of clubs you know and

this pamphlet that I mean John Reed was a Kupi fan actually it's quite it's quite a famous pamphlet but he predicted you know right from the well we

predicted they you're right in the early 90s that when and I'm sorry it says but when

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