Takeaways from the Trump-Putin Summit; Netanyahu’s Playbook in Gaza; Implications of Defunding mRNA Research; AI’s Growing Impact on the US Economy

Fareed Zakaria GPS

CNN

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4.3 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Today on the show, Fareed is joined by President Biden’s former National Security Adviser, Jake Sullivan, for a wide-ranging conversation on the major takeaways from Friday’s Trump-Putin Summit, and why Netanyahu is prolonging Israel’s war in Gaza.Then, Alexander Gabuev, director of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia center, talks with Fareed about Putin’s wins following his meeting with Trump, and how it changes the war’s trajectory.Later, with the Trump administration’s cancellation of hundreds of millions of dollars for mRNA research—which was vital in developing COVID-19 vaccines, Dr. Leana Wen, the former Baltimore health commissioner, joins the show to discuss the importance of this technology, and what cuts mean for American scientists.Finally, as spending for artificial intelligence skyrockets in the US, Derek Thompson speaks with Fareed about AI’s promise—and if it’s a bubble waiting to burst.Guests: Jake Sullivan (@jakejsullivan); Alexander Gabuev (@AlexGabuev); Leana Wen (@DrLeanaWen); Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is GPS, the Global Public Square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.
0:07.6	I'm Farid Zakaria, coming to you live from New York. Today on the program, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump meet again, this time in Alaska, supposedly to pursue peace.
0:18.8	No deals were made, but the rehabilitation of the Russian president has certainly begun.
0:23.6	I'll talk about all of this with the former national security advisor, Jake Sullivan, and then Alexander Gabouyev, a top Russia analyst.
0:32.6	Also, the White House just canceled half a billion dollars of research funding for the
0:38.2	MRNA technology that brought us the COVID vaccine and shows promise in combating cancer.
0:45.0	Why would they do that?
0:46.1	What does it mean for your health?
0:48.0	I'll ask an expert.
0:49.5	Finally, hundreds of billions of dollars are currently being spent in America on AI.
0:55.0	Is this massive outlay of money propping up the entire American economy?
1:00.0	And is it a bubble?
1:01.0	Derek Thompson will help us understand.
1:05.0	But first, here's my take.
1:09.0	America is often criticized for being short-term in its orientation, quick to change course.
1:14.8	In fact, Washington often shows a steely consistency in its foreign policy.
1:19.3	Consider the strategic outreach to India that began during the Clinton administration
1:24.5	and was expanded on in a bipartisan manner over 25 years until now.
1:31.9	Donald Trump's sudden, inexplicable hostility toward India, reverses policies pursued under
1:38.1	five administrations, including his own previous one. If it holds, this reversal may be the biggest strategic mistake of the Trump presidency so far.
1:50.1	After the Cold War, the U.S. began a sustained outreach toward India.
1:54.8	President Clinton's visit in 2000 was hugely successful and opened up the possibility
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