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🗓️ 18 April 2019
⏱️ 15 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hey, everyone. I'm David Chalien, the CNN political director, and this is the Daily D.C. |
0:07.7 | Thanks so much for listening. Today on the podcast, The Mueller Report. |
0:12.3 | It dropped, everyone. Attorney General William Barr has released to the public a redacted version of the Mueller report. |
0:42.1 | And what I think is crystal clear is that the conclusion that Barr and Rosenstein came to to determine that the president had not committed obstruction of justice is different than the conclusion or non-conclusion, if you will, that Bob Mueller came to in not coming |
0:49.2 | to an adjudication, but instead providing 10 different episodes of evidence of potential obstruction of justice. |
0:59.4 | Now, this was known to us from the bar four-page letter a few weeks back. |
1:07.9 | We knew then because he included one line quoted from the Mueller report that Mueller had not |
1:14.0 | come to the conclusion to exonerate the president on obstruction, but that Barr and Rosenstein |
1:18.7 | came to that conclusion. Now we have a little bit more information in reading through how |
1:25.2 | Mueller approached the obstruction of justice and what framed his thinking |
1:32.6 | that caused him to come to this conclusion that he wasn't going to approach this as simply |
1:39.9 | a decision to prosecute or declined to prosecute, that he was going to collect the evidence, |
1:47.7 | amass it, preserve it, and have that body of evidence for others, whether in a court of law |
1:55.4 | down the road when Donald Trump is not a sitting president and therefore not subject to the guidelines that say you can't indict a sitting president or for Congress, |
2:06.0 | which seems to be the more immediate place that this will obviously land. |
2:11.0 | Before I get to quoting Mueller on obstruction and his thinking around that part of the case. |
2:19.3 | Just to get inside the president's head, which this does in remarkable fashion, this report |
2:25.9 | just simply because of all the people and all the documents that Mueller was able to |
2:31.2 | examine as a part of this process, |
2:35.2 | you got a multi-tiered, multi-layered, robust assessment of how the president was behaving in real time, |
2:45.3 | or what the recollections of these people were when they spoke to Mueller about how the president was behaving in real time. |
2:51.4 | And in that vein, in May 2017, according to the Mueller report, after Trump learned from sessions |
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