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The Bobby Bones Show

TAKE THIS PERSONALLY - Why We Feel Lonely Even Though We’re Always "Connected"

The Bobby Bones Show

Premiere Networks

Society & Culture, Music Interviews, News, Music, Entertainment News, Comedy

4.810.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

We talk every day... but are we actually communicating?

Morgan and Psychotherapist Jason Van Ruler explore why true communication is at the center of every relationship and why so many people feel disconnected despite being more connected online than ever before. From conflict and vulnerability to the loneliness epidemic, self-awareness, and meaningful conversations, Jason shares the five communication styles from his book Discovering Your Communication Type and explains how our childhood experiences shape the way we show up in relationships today.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:21.8

It is time for a new series. We're talking about Take this personally. Take this personally. With Morgan Heelsman.

0:26.9

It is time for a new series where we're talking about talking, but not just any kind,

0:31.1

communication specifically, since that is the basis for all relationships.

0:33.5

But do we really know what communication is?

0:36.9

Are we doing it in a way that's helping us in our lives and in our relationships?

0:41.5

These next two episodes will dive into two different types of personality assessments for a better understanding of how we interact with the world around us.

0:44.5

So let's do this.

0:53.3

Jason Van Ruler joins me this week.

0:55.3

He's a psychotherapist, author, speaker, and just a man of many hats.

0:59.5

But he also has a really cool book out right now that's called Discovering Your Communication Type, which we can all use a lot more communication of.

1:08.1

So Jason, thanks for joining me this week.

1:12.5

Hey, thanks so much for having me.

1:18.4

I'm excited to be here. Yeah, so talk to me. Obviously, you have a lot of roles that would probably put you in a position to be having this conversation. But why the book? Why communication?

1:23.7

Why was this something that you were drawn to really start speaking on?

1:29.7

I have a terrible business model.

1:32.8

So Morgan, I'm always looking, how do I put myself out of a job?

1:38.1

And I thought, boy, if I could teach people how to communicate better, that would slow things down of it.

1:40.0

And I wanted to do it.

1:48.6

But in all honesty, the book really came from seeing so many times, whether I'm meeting with a couple or a team, people say, we just can't communicate.

1:52.6

And seeing the struggle and stress that comes with that.

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