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The Bobby Bones Show

TAKE THIS PERSONALLY - Understanding the Enneagram Beyond the Stereotypes

The Bobby Bones Show

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4.8 β€’ 10.2K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 23 May 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Whether you’re obsessed with the Enneagram or have never taken the test before, this episode is the perfect introduction to understanding yourself on a deeper level.

Can you have two Enneagram types? Can trauma change your personality results? Is the Enneagram actually helpful or just another label?

Certified Enneagram and life coach Melissa Kircher joins me to unpack the real purpose behind the Enneagram and why so many people find it life-changing. We explore all 9 personality types, the role trauma plays in self-perception, and how understanding your patterns can help you heal, communicate better, and build healthier relationships. And yes, we even get into the nitty gritty details around wings, stress arrows, and growth paths. 

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:21.8

The communication series continues, whether you're Take this personally. Take this personally. With Morgan Heelsman.

0:24.2

The communication series continues.

0:26.2

Whether you're obsessed with the Enneagram or just want to understand yourself on a deeper level,

0:29.4

this is the episode for you.

0:30.9

We're talking all about the Enneagram and why so many people find it life changing.

0:35.4

So let's do this.

0:43.6

Yeah. so many people find it life-changing. So let's do this. Certified Enneagram and life coach, Melissa Kircher, joins me this week. She specializes in deep

0:49.4

enneagram work, reparenting, career development, all the things about our personality that intervolve

0:55.9

and intertwine with our life. So Melissa, thank you for joining me this week. Thank you for having me.

1:00.7

I'm so excited to be here. I'm excited to talk all about anagrams because I love this. And I'm not

1:07.4

going to start on my hot button topic because we will get there.

1:12.5

Ooh, I'm excited.

1:15.4

Yes, which will be fun, I think, for you.

1:15.9

Okay. But talk to me about the Enneagram because surprisingly, there's still a whole lot of people out there in the world that don't quite know the Enigram or who have never taken it, who've not dove into the world of Enneagram.

1:29.1

So talk to me about what the Enneagram is and why it's so important for us to understand it. Sure. It is a tool. So it is,

1:37.2

I think, a really important tool, but it's not better or worse than anything else. I personally

1:41.9

love it because I find that it goes deeper than just

1:45.8

putting you in a box. It shows you the box that you're already in and then how to get out of it.

1:52.0

So in the Enneagram system of personality, there are nine different types, and they're all in a

1:58.5

circle and in this little symbol. And each type represents a pattern

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