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Guaranteed Human.

When I've started doing this podcast, I used to believe there were only a few paths to self-help.

But the more I bring on guests, the more I realize just how many different methods and ways there are to find true healing.

Which makes sense.

There is no one path to healing, so there's also no one method.

So as we continue this series on understanding ourselves better, I'm bringing on a guest this week who found a philosophy in way of thinking that saved his life.

So let's do this.

Thomas Thatcher joins me this week.

He is the author of the TAC philosophy, Detaching Yourself

from Suffering. So Thomas, thanks for joining me today. Thank you. Excited to have you, but I want to hear

how you even got into this line of work, why this line of work is important to you, because

there's typically a story that comes from that.

Yes, and that's what my book's about is stories.

But my story came in the family business where I was, what was it, the hairy book,

where I was a spare child or the second son.

And when I came into the business, my father had already pretty well had set up my brother to run the business. And so I thought that I was going to come in and we were going to run it

together or there was going to be a place for me. And I was upstairs and he was downstairs in the office by my dad and I was done in meetings

and he was in meetings. So I said, wow, this is a really bad situation. And the problem was not

that pain part. The problem was going from the pain part into the suffering part. And that was all

the stories that I made up to it.

And what I had come to the conclusion was is that my father didn't love me, he didn't care.

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