Take me to your leaders.

Unless they're jackasses.

They seem like jackasses.

It's one more thing.

Armstrong and Getty.

One more thing.

Before we get to your thing, I know we're about to talk about the UFO hearings they had the other day.

I, as a guy who listens to lots of podcasts and reads tons of stuff, I've noticed the change

in the last couple of years, there are way more of your super smart people saying,

I think there's a decent chance we are the only life in the universe, as opposed to like my

whole life where it was, now that'd be crazy to think that now

the the super educated people who spend their lives on this there's like a

backlash to that like no there's there's very good reason to believe we are the only

life that exists in the universe I I've got to, having been convinced of the other point of view from my whole life,

I find that counterintuitive and difficult to buy, but I haven't dug into it.

Oh, yeah.

Look, you know, just like search it on YouTube.

You'll find MIT professors talking, going through the reasons why they think that's quite

possibly because it's just very, very difficult and takes a whole bunch of extraordinary things to occur.

Yeah.

Temperature, water, nobody's exactly sure how life started anyway, but maybe there's just none anywhere.

Katie, your gut reaction.

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