What's up, fungal associates? Welcome to completely arbitrary the podcast about trees and other related topics. I'm one of your hosts. My name is Alex Croson, and like always, I'm sitting across from Brinown Dendralogist Kasey Club.

Ah, Alex, yes, thank you. Good day. Hello, Kasey. I had, yesterday, I essentially, I didn't lose my voice, but I yelled just for, you know, whatever reason. And my voice is horse today. So I might have to take a break and clear my throat and come back so I can have a buttery smooth projection. That's important. Yeah, I'll give you an example. Okay. Kasey is clear as throat and. Wow. Yeah, see, that's all I have to do. No discernible.

Oh, what? Shoot. Hi, Kase. Well, I say hello, but we've been together all damn day. That is, that is very true. We're a conglomeration now. And we reconvene here in the studio. I mean that quite literally. Also, this is a studio apartment. And we're here to talk about a tree, Kasey. That's right, Alex. Well, hold on. Hold on. You hear the breaks screeching on that. Yeah. Or are we here to talk about trees?

A trees. A trees. Yeah. Let's say that. All right. So I'm going to, I'm going to break it to everyone like this. We're talking about the dogwood. Okay. Now I say that because I'm not talking about in it, rather, Alex, I'm going to, I'm going to try to convince you of my, what I think. Okay. All right. You ready? I'm ready to be convinced. There are three species of dogwood that are not interchangeable for, you know, biological and taxonomical reasons, but for all other purposes. For the most part,

they are, they are interchangeable. Here's the thing. This is controversial. This is, it is. It's extremely controversial. And I know a lot of people who are, who'd get really, really upset about this, which I think is silly. Yeah, which is fair. I would get upset about this like very much so.

Their silliness, however, I think is okay, because in a lot of ways, they're right. There is a difference between, you know, certain dogwoods. Some are very obvious, some are not. We're talking about the three not so obviously different dogwoods.

And we're not talking about literal terms here. No, no, no, no. And what we're talking about is more if you go out and you're, you're just a, you know, you're a tree.

In semi-intusious, you know, like you, you can recognize that's a cherry. That's a this. A crowson. Yes. And there are many people who would not be able to tell the difference between a dogwood and a cherry.

They would just be like, yeah, blooms white or pink in the cherry. And it's like, oh, actually, it's completely not a cherry, but that's okay. It's fine. We're just going to move on.

So this is for those people who walk outside and they're like, oh, it's a dogwood. That's great. This is for you. Those people don't tell the difference. Is that a Pacific dogwood? Right.

Is that a Eastern flower in dogwood? Is that a kooza dogwood? They, they don't know. And for all intents and purposes, it doesn't matter. Wow. So we're talking in sort of. I'm going to, I'm going to call this. We're speaking in broad specifics.

Yes. I think so. Yeah. And here. So here's the thing. Those, these are the three species, which is cornice kooza, the kooza dogwood, cornice nutaliye, the Pacific dogwood and cornice florida, which is the Eastern flowering dogwood. Right. So in the episode title of this, of this episode, it's going to say dogwood. It's just going to say dogwood.

But you get a little threefer here. You do. You get the threefer and the thing about the threefer is that they, they, they all look kind of the same.

They look kind of the same, but they also have like very minute differences. So I'm going to say, you know what? We're just, we're just going to go for, we're just going to call them all what they are, which is a dogwood. Okay.

Second, here's the second reason of three. The second one is the Pacific dogwood is my favorite. I love Pacific dogwood. Well, that's because we have a West Coast bias. Yeah, we do. We have a less, but I also because it's huge. It is. It's a, I believe my notes here. I literally have written.

It gets huge like spit out your coffee. Wait, that's a fucking dogwood. I have that written and Alex true form. I also have commas and quotes as if I was writing this in a literature class. So it's perfect.

So it's, I think it's great. It's a huge big, beautiful tree. Yeah.

Um, however, the Eastern flowering dogwood is ubiquitous across the landscape. Sure. So I think one is really cool. I think one is really beautiful. I think they're both very beautiful.

Um, but the ubiquitousness of the Eastern flowering dogwood, that's the one that 90% of the people who are listening this are going to interact with. So it's kind of like, well, I want to throw a bone out to those, especially if you're on the east, they're everywhere.

And that's your classic pink dogwood. That's your classic pink dogwood. It's literally the one that's growing outside the window behind me right now. Beautiful view. Yeah. But the last thing is, um, those dogwoods both have a little bit of a disease that gets them.

So they are starting to plant more often the kusa dogwood. The kusa dogwood also is a little bit tougher and it grows a little bit faster.

So it's more resistant to this disease grows faster. It's a little bit tougher. You can plant it in like less nice areas and it will kind of just keep going. Be perfectly fine. Okay.

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