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Why It Matters

Taiwan, China, and the Threat of War

Why It Matters

Council on Foreign Relations

News

4.2876 Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

A small island one hundred miles off the coast of China could be the flashpoint that determines the future of great-power competition. Experts increasingly warn that a Chinese invasion of Taiwan would be globally catastrophic, regardless of its success or if the United States intervenes. How concerned should Americans be?   James Lin (Assistant Professor at the University of Washington ) David Sacks (Fellow for Asia Studies, CFR)   For an episode transcript and show notes, visit us at https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/taiwan-china-and-threat-war

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0:00.0

Does the U.S. consider Taiwan a country?

0:06.3

No.

0:07.3

Okay, but it's possible that we may go to war with our most powerful adversary to defend its independence.

0:15.0

To defend the status quo and its de facto independence, yes.

0:21.0

Let's begin this half hour in Asia where Taiwan is getting ready for war with China.

0:25.8

A popular saying among people here is Ukraine today Taiwan tomorrow.

0:30.6

President Biden last fall saying for the first time that if China invades Taiwan, the U.S. would send

0:37.0

troops to defend it. Tansi Juebo and Teng Teng Chisuong.

0:44.0

Tieni

0:50.0

Tien. Tensions between China and Taiwan are one of the world's major fall lines and in recent years

0:59.3

those tensions have been ratcheting up. China feels that Taiwan is part of its territory and is vowed to one day reclaim it.

1:07.0

And the history underneath that claim is complex and tense.

1:11.0

To make matters more confusing, the U.S. stance on Taiwan has been

1:15.2

kept purposefully vague for decades, a policy that has come to be known as

1:20.2

strategic ambiguity. Mixed up in all of this are the Taiwanese people themselves,

1:25.0

who of course have their own nuanced perspectives on the situation.

1:30.0

My name is Gabrielle Sierra,

1:32.0

and this is why it matters.

1:34.0

Today, a crash course on Taiwan, and a glimpse into what a Chinese invasion could mean for the world.

1:55.0

Chinese invasion of Taiwan would likely be the most complex modern military operation, something that makes D-Day look small by comparison.

1:59.0

This is David Sachs. You actually heard him at the top of the episode. He's a fellow here at the

2:04.4

council focusing on Taiwan and China. He's the director of the council's new independent

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