TAFS Goes Camping: Conversations with The Athletic's Panthers, Browns and Commanders beat writers
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🗓️ 10 August 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
Look, you visit with eight teams in one week, you gotta have two Beat Writer Notebooks. In this edition, Robert talks with Joe Person, Zac Jackson and Nicki Jhabvala, The Athletic's Panthers, Browns and Commanders beat writers, respectively. How legitimate is the optimism for the Panthers offense? How do the Browns even measure success this season? What can the Commanders do to follow up on last season's unexpected breakthrough? Learn the answers to those questions, and a whole lot more, on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
Rundown (timestamps are approximate)
4:01 Robert and Joe Person from Panthers camp
27:21 Robert and Zac Jackson from Browns camp
48:08 Robert and Nicki Jhabvala from Commanders camp
Host: Robert Mays
With: Joe Person, Zac Jackson, Nicki Jhabvala
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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| 0:35.2 | Hey guys, it's Robert Mays. |
| 0:36.7 | Just wanted to give you a quick heads up that we recorded these |
| 0:38.9 | B-Writer conversations over the course of the past week before teams played their first preseason |
| 0:43.6 | games. It shouldn't change too much about the topics discussed, but especially with something like |
| 0:48.3 | the Browns quarterback battle and Chador Sanders, I felt like it was context to keep in mind as you |
| 0:53.1 | were listening. When it comes to Chador's performance, I got to say was context to keep in mind as you were listening. |
| 0:57.3 | When it comes to Shadur's performance, I got to say I was impressed. |
| 1:02.1 | I can tell you that in talking to folks in Cleveland this week, Shadur was behind Dylan Gabriel in the quarterbacking order there. |
| 1:04.7 | That was honestly based on a lot of operational elements in the offense, spitting out play |
| 1:09.0 | calls, working through progressions on time, |
| 1:11.1 | setting and checking protections. I think based on how that offense was taught to the players of |
| 1:15.7 | Colorado, Chador came in with a little less foundational knowledge about how the position |
| 1:20.3 | would operate in the league. And it just put him a little bit behind at the start of camp. |
| 1:24.7 | But by all counts, it really matters to him. and he's been putting in the work to get himself |
| 1:29.1 | there. |
| 1:30.0 | And as far as Friday night goes, there was playing alike. |
| 1:32.9 | The two rip throws he delivered over the middle, the dig and that second touchdown, I think, |
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