Hello and welcome to Table Talk, the Spectator's Food and Drink podcast. I'm Olivia Potts

and I'm Laura Prendergast. And today we're delighted to be joined by Al and Kitty Tate.

Al and Kitty are father and daughter and run the Orange Bakery in Waukelington and are authors of the new cookbook, Bread Song.

Kitty is our youngest ever guest on table talk at just 18 years old.

At the age of 14, she was struck by crippling anxiety and depression and had to leave school.

Bread Song is the story of how Kitty and Al rebuilt Kitty's life with the help of bread and how baking changed their lives.

Kitty and Al, welcome to table talk.

Thank you very much. We're thrilled to be here.

Yeah, so excited.

As listeners know, we always start this podcast with the same question.

I'm going to ask you both the questions.

So, Al, what are your earliest memories of food?

I'm not the youngest person on this podcast. Or in this room. In fact, probably, you know, between us all,

if you added the rest of you up, it would match me. I'm a child of the 70s. So basically,

that meant I was exposed to probably the most extraordinary food that has ever been created because everything was either processed or you added hot water to it.

So smash, I think came out in the 70s.

Sausages that hadn't seen a pig came out in the 70s.

I love those sausages.

Krispy pancakes came out in the 70s.

So it was a true culinary experience.

And I don't think there's anyone who's nostalgic.

Well, actually, some of our guests are also known is a bit nostalgic for those things.

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