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Table Talk: Daria Lavelle, author of 'Aftertaste'

Best of the Spectator

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4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Daria Lavelle was born in Kyiv, Ukraine, and raised in New York. Her work explores themes of identity and belonging and her short stories have appeared in The Deadlands, Dread Machine, and elsewhere. Daria is the author of the critically acclaimed new novel Aftertaste which explores food, grief and the uncanny. 

On the podcast she tells Liv about her 'inexplicable' love of olives as a child in Ukraine, trying to make it as a writer in New York and how to write about food without it feeling contrived.

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0:29.9

Hello and welcome to Table Talk, the Spectators' Food and Drink podcast.

0:34.4

I'm Olivia Potts and today we are delighted to be joined by Darya Lavelle.

0:36.2

Darya is a writer.

0:39.8

Born in Kiev, she was raised in New York and has worked a fiction writer,

0:43.4

with her short stories being published in The Deadlands and Dread Machine.

0:48.4

Her first book, After Taste, explores food, grief, and the uncanny.

0:51.5

And will be published by Bloomsbury on the 22nd in May.

0:53.6

Dario, welcome to Table Talk.

0:56.3

Thank you so much for having me. I'm delighted to be here.

1:02.1

We're going to start where we always do at the very beginning and ask you, what are your earliest memories of food?

1:12.4

I love this question. I have so many early memories of food and eating and food rituals. Food was really an important touchstone, I think, in my house growing up. And I have all of these specific recollections of eating various things that small children did not

1:18.8

like to eat when I was a small child. So I have all sorts of memories of eating, and I still

1:23.6

eat them. Entire lemons whole, anything sour, anything pickled, not just pickled

1:28.8

cucumbers, but pickled tomatoes, pickled watermelon, pickled apples, all that sort of stuff

1:35.0

comes back from, I'm Ukrainian, so it comes back from sort of that Ukrainian cultural, Eastern

1:39.8

European tradition of eating. And then I also loved olives inexplicably. I was so grown up. So grown up. I called them

1:49.0

salty little plums and my parents talk all the time. During immigration, so when we left Ukraine, I was two.

1:56.4

And we came to the U.S. and you couldn't go directly here at the time. You had to stop in Austria and Italy in our case. When we were in Italy, I ate olives just by the fistful. I parents talk about it all

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