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Live Hello and welcome to Table Talk, the Spectators' Food and Drink podcast.

I'm Olivia Potts, and today we are delighted to be joined by Candice Chung.

Candice is a food writer, her work has been featured in various publications, including

The Sydney Morning Herald,

Good Food, the Australian Gourmetra traveller and The Guardian.

And she is a founding member of Diversity in Food Media Australia,

an organisation dedicated to supporting and promoting underrepresented voices in the food industry. Her first book, Chinese parents don't say I love you, a memoir of

saying the unsayable with food, is out now. Candice, welcome to Table Talk. Hi, thanks so much for

having me. We're going to start where we always do at the very beginning and ask you, what are

your earliest memories of food? It's an interesting question because pretty

much all of my early memories involved food in some way. And a lot of it happened in Hong Kong,

actually, where my family lived until I was 11 or 12 before we migrated to Sydney. There is one

story that comes to mind, but it's my mom's story,

actually. So strictly speaking, it's her memory. But it says something about my relationship with

food, even from a young age, I think. I wrote about this in my memoir, Chinese parents don't say

I love you, but essentially it's a story about how I learned to walk.

So growing up, I learned to speak quite quickly. Or I was told that I learned to speak quite

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