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🗓️ 3 November 2024
⏱️ 63 minutes
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On the heels of his latest book The Message, author Ta-Nehisi Coates joins Sam for a conversation in Los Angeles.
At the top, we discuss how his Atlantic piece The Case for Reparations guided these three new essays (6:10), Coates’ early education growing up in West Baltimore (14:57), and his powerful dispatches from South Carolina (22:00) and the Middle East (29:30).
On the back-half, Coates unpacks why he believes the mainstream media prioritizes “factual complexity over self-evident morality” (37:47), his advocacy for Palestinian journalists (39:20), and his reflections about the U.S. election (47:28). To close, a formative passage from James Baldwin's The Lost Generation (52:38) and a story about love and writing (57:45).
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0:26.2 | Available on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Pushkin. This is Talk Easy. I'm Sam Forgo, so welcome to the show. |
0:58.8 | Today I'm writer Tanahasi Coates. |
1:15.6 | He's the author of The Beautiful Struggle. |
1:17.9 | We were eight years in power, the water dancer, and Between the World and Me, |
1:22.6 | for which he won the National Book Award in 2015. |
1:26.2 | He's also the recipient of a MacArthur Fellowship, and is currently the Sterling Brown |
1:31.2 | Endowed Chair in English at Howard University. |
1:35.1 | But Coates first came to prominence as a national correspondent for the Atlantic, where he |
1:40.4 | published seminal pieces on mass incarceration, the false promise of the Obama era, |
1:46.4 | and most notably the case for reparations. His latest book is called The Message, a triptych |
1:53.3 | of essays set across various sites of conflict. There's the Carr, Senegal, where he makes his first |
1:58.7 | trip to Africa, then Columbia, South Carolina, |
2:02.4 | reporting on the attempted banning of one of his books on race, and then finally Palestine, |
2:08.3 | where he bears witness to the current conflict firsthand. That last chapter in the Middle East |
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