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of hard and fast rules here on thunder and lightning but one of them has always been if you win a

national championship we're going to get you on to the podcast, and we are joined now by two members of the

MSU e-sports team. Mason Marshaonda, who's the team captain, Gage Fullwood, team member,

and event director.

Guys, I appreciate you coming on.

I am an old-school video game guy, so I enjoy seeing video games and e-sports.

The amount of relevancy it's getting.

Mason, sort of take us through the journey of MSU e-sports.

You know, this is a program that has been winning a lot lately and has become a program that's, you know, I don't know, I don't see the national rankings.

I haven't seen the AP poll on, on e-sports or anything like that.

But where right now in the nation would you rank MSU e-sports?

Overall, as a club, I think, since we have so many different sports,

I'd say easily we're ranked pretty highly among colleges.

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