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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

T Bone Burnett: Perfection Is Second-Rate

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.54.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2019

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

T Bone Burnett helped launch the careers of Los Lobos, Counting Crows, Gillian Welch; revive the careers of Roy Orbison and Robert Plant; course-correct Elvis Costello’s career in the mid-eighties and just recently produced a beautiful record by Sara Bareilles. Of course, there’s all of his film work as well. But while visiting Rick Rubin, himself a legendary producer and co-host of Broken Record, T Bone said he has stopped producing other artists. Instead he’s focusing on releasing his own music. "Invisible Light: Acoustic Space" an electronic infused song cycle was just released. T Bone says he has three double records ready to come out behind it. In this episode of Broken Record, from Shangri La Studios in Malibu, T Bone Burnett premiers two brand new songs on his acoustic guitar for us, talks about his pivot towards songwriting and chats about his famed career.

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0:00.0

Pushing

0:07.0

Hello, hello everyone, Gather round.

0:12.0

Malcolm Gladwell here.

0:14.0

If you're a fan of my show, Revisionist History, then you know my deep and abiding obsession

0:19.0

with American higher education.

0:21.0

How it's broken, how it can be fixed.

0:24.0

Over our next couple of episodes, we dive into this topic again.

0:29.0

And as you will hear, one story makes me really angry.

0:33.0

And the other gives me hope.

0:36.0

Listen to Revisionist History, wherever you get your podcasts,

0:40.0

and you can always get our shows early and at-free by subscribing to Pushkin Plus.

0:59.0

That's T-bone Bernat in conversation with my broken record partner, Rick Rubin.

1:05.0

We took a hilarious picture of Rick and T-bone after they taped this interview.

1:09.0

Rick is in a t-shirt in shorts, naturally.

1:11.0

T-bone towers over him, dressed impeccably in a white shirt and a black suit,

1:16.0

like some old-school blues player.

1:18.0

I think of T-bone as Rick's spiritual godfather.

1:22.0

He's a generation older in his early 70s,

1:25.0

but he's had the same kind of extraordinary behind-the-scenes influence on the music we all listen to.

1:30.0

T-bone is probably most famous for helping launch the careers of artists like Los Lobos,

1:35.0

Counting Crows, and Gillian Welch.

1:38.0

Also for producing albums by Brandy Carlisle, Elton John,

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