SZEPS LIVE TOUR: "Atheism, Wokeness & Islam" with Sarah Haider
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.5 • 905 Ratings
🗓️ 27 July 2025
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Born in Pakistan, Sarah Haider founded the Ex-Muslims of North America to help Muslims escape Islamist coercion. She was an outspoken atheist. Then... she lost her faith in atheism.
First, she noticed progressive peers preaching critical race and gender ideologies, while punishing blasphemers of their social-justice dogmas in ways that felt uncomfortably... religious.
Second, she tripped out on Ayahuasca.
Third, she walked away from her podcast, A Special Place in Hell.
What happened?
Sarah sat down with Josh in her home in the suburbs outside Washington, D.C. for a livestream about belief, justice, gender, and tolerance, on the Szeps Live Round-the-World Podcast Marathon.
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| 0:00.0 | Goody, humans. |
| 0:04.0 | Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. |
| 0:06.9 | This episode of uncomfortable conversations is the audio of a video live stream from the Zep's |
| 0:13.6 | live around the world tour, Substak's first ever live streamed global podcast marathon, |
| 0:40.8 | where I'm crossing two dozen time zones in a dozen days and circumnavigating the globe to sit down with some of the world's most interesting people in some new global capital nearly every single day, sometimes multiple times a day, streaming live in full high-deaf glory, not on smartphones, |
| 0:46.7 | mostly, to millions of subscribers across multiple publications, and you can join in at Uncomfortable Conversations.subtac.com. Should you wish to do so? Or you can listen to this episode. |
| 0:52.8 | It's delayed to conform to this podcast's normal |
| 0:57.0 | twice weekly schedule, which is fine, but you could have seen it or heard it already on |
| 1:02.0 | Substack if you want to get ahead of the next one. If you're new to uncomfortable conversations, |
| 1:07.1 | this is a place for wrestling with the world's most consequential and controversial and divisive |
| 1:14.2 | issues in a non-deviceive, mostly non-uncomfortable way with the world's most fascinating minds. |
| 1:22.3 | We don't try to make guests uncomfortable, but the point is that the topics are subjects that normal people generally feel |
| 1:29.7 | uncomfortable disagreeing about honestly. And we try to model how to do that in a courageous and |
| 1:35.3 | courteous and bullshit-free way. This particular conversation is just a preview. If you're a paid |
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| 1:51.4 | either via Apple or via substack, or you can just enjoy this excellent appetizer. |
| 1:57.1 | A reminder that if you get a paid subscription on Apple Podcasts, then you get the full episodes, |
| 2:03.7 | but there's no way to feed you the live stream or the video or for you to join the conversation |
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