Hello and welcome to best laid plans.

This is your host, Sarah Hart Unger, and this is a podcast about all things planning and planning adjacent.

So it is mid to late December, kind of for me, the beginning of what I would consider

kind of my big break period. I hope that this applies to some of you listening as well.

We have Christmas coming up for those who celebrate. Hanukkah has just kind of come to an end,

but many of us, I think, have a slowdown period from work or are off

of work, and I know that does hold true for me. So I am recording this episode a couple

weeks in advance of when it actually airs. And so I don't know how my book launch went

from this juncture, but this is the first podcast episode since Bestly Plans. A simple

system for planning a life that you love has found its way out into the world. And from past Sarah

to future Sarah and all of you, thank you. I hope it went well. And if it did, thank you so much.

Really, I don't really think there's any way it can't have gone well.

The pre-orders have been fantastic.

I already appreciate so much the support that I have gotten from so many of my listeners

and readers over the years.

And if this book ends up in physical stores and does okay, it is thanks to all of you.

So yay, just kind of celebrating that,

even though it hasn't even happened yet. Okay, so for today, it's going to be a very

systems and planner focused episode because this is all about meta planning. And

meta planning is a concept I talk about in the book, and it's thinking about how we do things.

There's planning itself where you're setting your goals and thinking about what you want to do.

But then there's like thinking about how you do that planning and how you're going to track things and what tools you're going to use.

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