Hello and welcome to the Storygrid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you become a better

writer. I'm your host Tim Grawl and I am a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a

story that works. Joining me shortly is Sean Coyne. He is a creator of Story Grid, the author of

the book Story Grid, and an editor with over 25 years experience.

In this episode, we continue talking through the second book in my trilogy of The Threshing

and trying to figure out how to enter into this project.

One of the great things about Story Grid is that we have macro tools and we have micro tools we have macro tools where

we can kind of zoom out and look at the story as a whole and then we have micro tools where we can

zoom in and look at one particular part of the story all by itself so in this episode we talk about a couple

of each of those and how you can start entering into your novel and figuring

out what you're trying to write. So I think you really enjoy this episode. So let's jump in and get

started. So Sean actually did my homework this week. It was actually one of the first,

I think it was the first time I went back and listened to relisten to what we

recorded last week just because it was like, it's just something I'm not familiar with,

this idea of like the complicated system that moves to the obvious order, that moves to the chaos,

that moves to complexity. And so it moves to the chaos, that moves to complexity.

And so it was that thing where like we talked and I was like, okay, I got it.

And then when I went to do it, I'm like, I don't think I got this.

And so I listened to it again.

And then I just started mapping out what I thought book two could be and I did a bunch of Googling about it which was mostly unhelpful but just trying to get like other people's breakdowns

of like what the two towers did and what Empire Strikes Back did and what the middle book of hunger

games did right like bridging the gap while also being a stand-down and what Empire Strikes Back did and what the Middle Book of Hunger Games did.

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