Hi, I'm David Pena Guzman.

And I'm Ellie Anderson.

Welcome to Overthink.

The podcast were two friends, who are also professors, put philosophy in dialogue with the everyday.

Because big ideas are within everyone's reach.

So I feel like it's a really popular thing to say, I'm synesthetic, almost like a party trick,

you know, meeting somebody and talking about

what sort of music you like and then just casually dropping that you have synesthesia.

I don't know what parties you're going to, but I've never had that happen to me. I've never been to

a party where somebody tried to impress other people by claiming to be a synestead.

Okay, I would venture to guess that most of the party where somebody tried to impress other people by claiming to be a synestead. What?

Okay, I would venture to guess that most of the parties that I've been to, especially back

in college when I was living in the artsy dorm, there was literally a dorm that was like

for all of the weirdos and art kids, and that was where I lived senior of college.

All the tortured artists with a synesthetic consciousness. Right? Like, I'm sure that was mentioned probably at least once a party. But I hear it a lot nowadays, too. I'm wondering, David, if this has to do with the fact that I, even to this day, still hang out with, like, people who work in the film industry and kind of creatives, and you are a nerdy debater.

Yeah, I only hang out with the ones who brag about being logical and regimented and compartmentalized.

That's what really gets you the goods at the party.

David, you got to get on these L.A. creative-type parties.

I also need to get into them more. I'm like fronting. Like, I'm so sceny. It's not at all the case. It's because you're not enough of a synesthete, Ellie. Right? Okay. Well, for listeners who might not know what synesthesia is, if you're a nerdy debate or like David, who doesn't hear it as like regular party talk. Let's explain it. David, what is synesthesia? So synesthesia is basically a subjective experience that some people report that crosses sensory modalities. So most of us

are familiar with the senses. You know, you have your vision, you have your touch. Most of us are familiar with the senses. You know, you have your vision,

you have your touch. Most of us are familiar with the sense. Yeah, you know, have you heard of

them? There's like a few of them. But there are people who experience the phenomenal world

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