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The Bulwark Podcast

Symone Sanders-Townsend: Don't Say We Didn't Warn You

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Project 2025 sounds mundane, but it would institutionalize Trumpism, eliminate the Department of Education, mass deport 11 million people, and turn the Department of Health and Human Services into the Department of "Life." Plus, more from the mailbag, and Biden finding the sweet spot between Uncle Joe and punching Trump in the face. Symone Sanders-Townsend joins Tim Miller.

show notes:

Symone's interview on Project 2025
MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 event in September

Tim's Mount Rushmore of political books:

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast I'm your host Tim Miller. It's Tuesday June 25th. I'm still in my parents' basement. Things are going

0:14.7

great this summer. The TSA made a big announcement. It screened 2.99 million airline passengers

0:21.3

on Sunday, a record record the highest ever number.

0:23.6

It's American Carnage out there I guess. People are going on so many vacations

0:27.4

and I'm delighted to be here today.

0:29.0

Simone Sanders Townsend, she's back. She's a co-host of MS NBC's The Weekend, former senior advisor to

0:35.3

Biden's 2020 campaign and chief spokesperson for VP Kamla Harris. What's going

0:41.0

on girl? Greetings and salutations. I do know why all these people are flying.

0:46.2

You gotta you gotta find the joy wherever you can. Tim you gotta laugh to keep from crying nowadays.

0:51.1

Yeah exactly. I don't know. The airport is packed. The lounges, I don't know if you're a lounge, a lounge.

0:56.5

Okay, the lounges are so packed that like you can't even get a day pass anymore. You can't even get a seat.

1:01.6

What is going on?

1:03.0

Yeah, the lounges are more packed than McDonald's.

1:05.0

That's not a luxury experience in the lounge and that's fine.

1:08.0

I'm a man of the people, but it's just, it's not a sign that we're living in a third world country like the former president wants to say.

1:15.0

I want to get to the debate stuff obviously, but I want to talk to you first about your interview,

1:20.0

your little three-way interview with Kevin Roberts, the head of Heritage.

1:24.3

Oh yes, of the Heritage Foundation.

1:26.3

Yes.

1:27.3

So he is a spearheading Project 2025.

1:29.6

Dr. Kevin Riles, I know you guys kept calling him Dr. Roberts, is he an actual doctor?

1:34.0

He is a PhD.

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