Oh my God. Hi. It's me Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters. The show the tree's popular

culture is the most important kind of culture because, you know, it's the one that's got the Twilight

series in it. Now, to this end, Troubled Waters pits a pair of entertainers against one another

in a pop culture battle to the ego death. To win this battle, each guest will be called upon to use their smarts, their argument

skills, the great comebacks that they've been saving in a moleskin notebook to earn the coveted

troubled waters title, Pundit Emeritus, which will automatically give their opinion on whose tell-all memoirs better

Britney Spears is or Jada Pinkett Smiths is more weight than a civilians. You are listening to troubled

waters. Before we meet our guests, I just have to say, Jada, if you're listening, give us five minutes.

Just give us five minutes apiece.

I think you're a very talented woman, but I cannot hear another thing about you or your husband, Will Smith.

Just five minutes. Take a walk around the block you or your husband, Will Smith. Just five minutes.

Take a walk around the block, move your limbs.

All right, now let's meet our guest.

Our first contestant is a writer, a friend of the show.

She hosts the podcast, How to Survive.

It is our pal.

Chris Kimmel.

Hello, Chris.

Hi.

Thank you for having me.

I'm so excited to also not listen to Jada.

What is left to write about in the book?

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