You're listening to Outside In, I'm Sam Evans Brown.

Today, here with producers Daniela Ali

Hello.

And Justine Paradise.

Yuhoo is the appropriate response in all circumstances.

Oh yeah.

Very professional. Oh, and this is playing with in the water.

Oh my God.

How old is you go?

He is 15 months now.

I think that we should just have like a hard pivot today on the show to just like two hours of like

rude noises and bath time fun instead of this.

Hugo does actually indeed love water that is that is his first word.

He fell in a pond last week and thought it was hilarious despite the fact of being totally soaked and cold

Well, you know you could actually start Hugo on swim lessons right now have you have you guys started him yet? Is that true?

Yeah, the American Association of Pediatrics just updated the recommendation saying that you can start kids as early as one-year-old in swim lessons.

They used to say age four.

But I mean others say even earlier like you know Margaret Meade the anthropologist in New Guinea in the 1930s observed like infants learning to walk and swim super early

So I mean yeah in all of this Justin and I have been thinking about how people form relationships to water and how that happens over time and just how people learn to swim.

Yeah for me this actually started a few months ago when I was home visiting my family I grew up

on Nantucket which is an island off Cape Cod Massachusetts and I brought my recorder

because I'll just do that just for fun like record conversations with the people I love

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