And then we have our top two, which is what we call the swinger and the smooth.

The smooth needs no introduction.

It is somebody like Ian Thorpe, somebody who look at and go, wow, that's amazing.

But it's really interesting that the majority of the world's best triathletes and open water swimmers swim nothing like that whatsoever.

That triathlon show, 133.

Yeah. That Traathlon Show, 133. Hey, what's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of that triathlon show the podcast presented by

scientific triathlon.com. I'm your host Michael and this is part two of my interview with

Paul Newsom, founder of Swim Smooth. If you have not yet listened to part one in episode 132,

you should definitely go back and listen to that

first to get the full context of what we're talking about in this interview. That's also where

you'll hear the introduction to Paul and who he really is and what his credibility is.

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