Sweet Woodruff and the Magic of Maywine with Lisen Sundgren
Herbs with Rosalee
Rosalee de la Forêt
4.9 • 564 Ratings
🗓️ 6 May 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
What if the medicine you need isn’t just in the plant—but in kneeling down to meet it?
Sweet woodruff (Galium odoratum) may not be as widely known as other plants in the herbal world, but as Swedish herbalist Lisen Sundgren shares in this episode, it holds a quiet kind of magic. With its delicate white flowers, an aroma reminiscent of vanilla, and a long history in European traditions, this woodland herb has been used to gently support the nervous system, ease restlessness, and mark the turning of the seasons.
But this conversation goes far beyond herbal actions. Lisen invites us into a deeper relationship with plants—one rooted in presence, patience, and reciprocity. From foraging in shaded forests to collaborating with chefs to create beautiful local, seasonal dishes, she shares how sweet woodruff became both a beloved herbal ally and a doorway into something even more meaningful: a sense of belonging within the natural world.
Be sure to download your beautifully illustrated recipe card for Lisen’s traditional sweet woodruff Maywine, a simple, time-honored way to celebrate the turning of the season, here.
By the end of this episode, you’ll know:
► Five ways sweet woodruff can benefit your health, from calming a wired mind to gently supporting the skin
► The surprising way its signature scent develops (and why it matters)
► Why less really is more when working with sweet woodruff
► How to work with sweet woodruff to create simple, nourishing skincare preparations
► Three tips for mindfully harvesting sweet woodruff
► How reconnecting with plants can support your nervous system in unexpected ways
► and so much more…
For those of you who don’t know her, Lisen Sundgren has created her path as an herbalist, forager, author, and nature and forest therapy guide for the past 30 years. We are nature and every single day there is more to learn from the depth of knowledge that plants have gathered for millions of years. What she learns, she shares, so that we can create a more sustainable, healthy, and delicious lifestyle.
To date Lisen has written eight books on various aspects of the use of herbs. She has inspired thousands through her books, through workshops and appearances in numerous TV and podcast appearances.
Since wild edibles made their entrance on the culinary scene, Lisen has been working closely with a number of progressive restaurants, and has trained chefs to use the wild harvest and to forage sensibly.
In the 90s she pioneered in the world of natural skincare with her brand, Lisen Organics.
Whether you’re sipping a fragrant infusion or simply sitting quietly beside a patch of green, may this episode inspire you to slow down, be present, and listen more closely to the plants around you.
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Rosalee is an herbalist and author of the bestselling book Alchemy of Herbs: Transform Everyday Ingredients Into Foods & Remedies That Heal and co-author of the bestselling book Wild Remedies: How to Forage Healing Foods and Craft Your Own Herbal Medicine. She's a registered herbalist with the American Herbalists Guild and teaches many popular online courses. Read about how Rosalee went from having a terminal illness to being a bestselling author in her full story here.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Herbs with Rosalie podcast, a show exploring how herbs heal as medicine, |
| 0:10.9 | as food, and through nature connection. I'm your host, Rosalie de la Foray. I'm an herbalist teacher |
| 0:17.2 | and the best-selling author of the books, Alchemy of Herbs, and Wild Remedies. |
| 0:21.9 | I created this podcast to share trusted herbal wisdom so that you can get the best results |
| 0:26.6 | when relying on herbs for your health. I love offering up practical knowledge to help you |
| 0:32.4 | dive deeper into the world of medicinal plants and seasonal living. My goal is that you'll walk away from each episode feeling inspired to start with the world of medicinal plants and seasonal living. |
| 0:37.5 | My goal is that you'll walk away from each episode feeling inspired to start working with |
| 0:42.1 | herbs in your everyday life. |
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| 1:03.1 | my weekly herbal newsletter. Okay, grab your cup of tea. Let's dive in. Well, if you're dealing |
| 1:09.4 | with stress, tension, or that wired but tired feeling, |
| 1:12.8 | you might not think of sweet woodruff, but this humble forest plant has a long tradition of gently |
| 1:17.9 | easing the nervous system. Today I'm joined by Lison Sundgren, hailing all the way from Sweden |
| 1:23.7 | to explore the medicine, folklore, and seasonal traditions behind this springtime herb. |
| 1:29.6 | If you enjoy this episode, please give it a thumbs up so more plant lovers can find us. |
| 1:33.7 | And be sure to stay tuned until the very end for your herbal tidbit. |
| 1:39.9 | Lisa, I am truly so thrilled to have you here. Thank you for joining all the way from Sweden. Thank you. I am so grateful to be here. Thank you. Aw. Well, I set my alarm for 6 a.m. this morning to accommodate an earlier morning since there's a little bit of a time difference. And I have to say I've never been happier to set my alarm for 6 a.m. than it was to know that I was seeing you. |
| 2:02.3 | So I'm just so grateful you're here looking forward to this conversation. |
| 2:06.9 | Yeah, me too. I've been looking forward to it for months. It's amazing. |
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