Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdie. Today is Monday, February 20th,

2023 and I'm the host of the show Kara Santa Maria and it's looking like

there may not be a new episode next week.

We're still trying to figure that out, but I am about to travel to the Middle East

to do a little bit of relief work and trying to coordinate everything along with, you know, working on my psychology

internship, working on my dissertation, doing this upcoming travel, coordinating with a lot of different

schedules.

We may be able to get a new episode to you each week,

but we may have to skip one week.

And if that's the case, I apologize in advance,

but we will be back before you know it.

I do want to thank those of you who keep talk nerdy churning, keep it going, help pay me, help pay my assistant,

help make sure that we can do this.

It's obviously something that we do both out of the kindness of our hearts and the

interest and the excitement, but also it helps to offset because many of you are just really, really kind

and you contribute to the show on an episodic basis.

If you want to learn more about how you can do that, you just got to go to patreon.com

slash talk nerdy to learn more.

And of course you can find access to some good perks there including ad-free episodes of the show.

This week I had the opportunity to chat with a science and nature writer Kristen Olson.

She lives in Portland, Oregon.

She's written several books,

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