Swedish and Finnish Security Awaiting NATO Membership

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🗓️ 19 July 2022

⏱️ 47 minutes

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In recent weeks, we've brought you information and insight about Swedish and Finnish attitudes toward NATO membership, and about Turkey's machinations regarding the two country's applications. But now, Sweden and Finland have been invited to NATO - and member country ratifications are coming in.

To explore the topic deeper, David Priess sat down with Katarina Tracz, the director of the Stockholm Free World Forum (Frivärld) and author of the book in Swedish, The Sea of Peace? Increased Tensions Around the Baltic Sea, and with Minna Ålander, from the German Institute for International and Security Affairs, where she focuses on Finnish and Nordic security.

They talked about Swedish and Finnish strategic perceptions and military interoperability with NATO equipment, the geopolitical importance of the Baltic sea, specifically the Gulf of Finland and Gotland, and about Swedish and Finnish risk perceptions as they await NATO membership.

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1:45.0	In recent weeks here on the podcast, we've brought you information and insight about Swedish and Finnish attitudes toward NATO membership,
1:53.0	and about Turkey's machinations regarding the two countries' applications.
1:57.0	But now, Sweden and Finland have been invited to NATO, and member country ratifications are coming in,
2:04.0	so I thought it was a good time to dive a bit more deeply into what's happening with Sweden, Finland, and NATO.
2:11.0	I sat down with Katerina Trocksch, the director of the Stockholm Free World Forum and author of the book in Swedish,
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