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And obviously one of the other key storylines or questions to flush itself out this preseason is the whole leadership conversation, which we talked a lot about last episode because we talked to McAvoy and Posternak.

Not great before that, but Swayman was asked about this too today and how he feels like, you know, what his role in leadership could be.

And he talked about being kind of a

feeling more established now. Um, and, you know, maybe being part of the leadership structure.

And, you know, as they maybe don't even plan to have a captain, just have more voices involved.

Well, I thought it was interesting that when he was talking about that, he referenced,

you know, because it was asked by Joe Haggerty.

Like, the setup was basically, you know, goleys don't often wear letters or really

never wear letters in the NHL, but can they still be a leader?

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