things of where we have been would be for you to compute that if God is supreme and joy is to be the passion of my life in him, that this view of life minimizes the reality of suffering.

That's not true. Your worship this morning has not minimized it.

Your worship songs have not minimized it.

As I discern the theology of PDI, it does not it though you believe in gifts of healing as you should.

It does not minimize suffering.

I want to highlight this. I want to highlight this.

I want to highlight this because I think my theology is more vulnerable to this.

If you wonder why I produced a 10th anniversary edition of Desiring God. If you've ever read any piece of Desiring God,

raise your hand. Okay, thank you. If you wonder why did in 1996, they do a 10 year anniversary.

It wasn't just to get a new cover on it and whatever.

It was because I said to the publisher, I've got to add a chapter on suffering.

And so they worked with me and we added a

chapter and suffering, I brought some things up to date,

but mainly it was driven by the chapter on suffering,

the sacrifice of Christian hedonism.

Text like this one have moved this. Second Corinthians six verse,

versus it, 8 to 10.

In honor and dishonor, I minister, in ill repute and good repute. We are treated as imposters and yet are true as unknown and yet are well known as

as dying and behold we live

as punished and yet not killed as sorrowful yet always rejoicing. That is an amazing phrase.

As sorrowful, yet always rejoicing.

I would love for you to give your own testimony of what that looks like in your life because you know if you're

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