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Short Wave

Sustainable Seafood? It's A Question Of Data

Short Wave

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4.76K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2022

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

The last several decades have taken a toll on the oceans: Some fish populations are collapsing, plastic is an increasing problem and climate change is leading to coral bleaching — as well as a host of other problems. But marine biologist and World Economic Forum programme lead Alfredo Giron says there's room to hope for the seas. He works to create systems that governments and the fishing industry can use to make sure fishing is legal and sustainable so oceans thrive for years to come. He talks to host Aaron Scott about his work and how managing the ocean is a lot about managing people.

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You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.

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Do you remember as a kid what you wanted to be when you grew up?

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Maybe an astronaut, soccer star, veterinarian, the president?

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Well, Alfredo Herón, he remembers.

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When I was seven in second grade, my mom got for me a book about marine mammals.

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And it was about seals, cilions, and world roses.

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And I just wasn't in love with him. I was like, I'm going to be a marine biologist.

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But as he grew up in Mexico City, he grew out of that childhood dream.

0:36.0

I started thinking, no, maybe engineering is something.

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And eventually I settled down for engineering by bioengineering.

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I was lucky enough to get into a lab where they allowed me to do all sorts of techniques

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that bioengineering professionals will do.

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And it was not my thing.

0:56.0

But the college admissions clock was ticking, and he needed to decide where to apply.

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And suddenly this ray of light illuminated that old book in the bookshelf.

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I opened it, and I was like, you know what? I wanted to be a marine biologist.

1:12.0

And I remember, I loved it.

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And so I looked up online, where can I study these in Mexico?

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And when is the deadline to do it?

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And the deadline was like one week away.

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So I just jumped for it.

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A thread went on to get a PhD at UCC and Diego's scripts institution of oceanography.

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