This is the podcast of Jonathan David and Melissa Helzer.

In this episode, we're featuring a talk on sustainability that Melissa shared last year

at the Heaven Come Conference in Los Angeles, California. We hope you

enjoy this episode. Okay I have a timer, I have an outline and I'm hands free.

I feel like I'm set up for a lot of success.

Okay, what I want to share with you guys about today is sustainability.

I am a very passionate person if you haven't been able to tell.

When I worship, I tend to get a little intense because when I get in his presence and I I

remember just for a second who he is, I kind of lose my mind.

And every time I come into worship,

the same exact thing happens,

because I'm fascinated with Jesus and I've learned in my life that that takes a lot of effort to stay passionate.

And I just want to talk about it today

because you guys have heard from some of the most amazing teachers,

some of my heroes, the first message I ever heard on worship

that wrecked my life and I think 1998 was by Joseph Garlington.

And he told a story about scaring his little boy.

And like 10 minutes later, his little boy came down again

and he leaned in his ears and said do it again daddy.

And at the age of 1718 I was wrecked by Joseph Garlington's message on worship.

Isn't that amazing?

And now I'm 36, and I get to speak after him.

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