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Sustainability: The Tyranny of the 21st Century

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🗓️ 6 October 2021

⏱️ 90 minutes

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The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 50 Sustainability is going to be the buzzword of the century. Everywhere we turn, we hear about sustainable practices in business and industry, sustainable foods and agriculture, sustainable energy, and so on. Businesses and governments sign on to "Sustainable Development Goals," and so civil responsibility is framed in terms of this seemingly simple idea: sustainability. What does sustainability entail, though? What informs it? In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, James Lindsay walks through Herbert Marcuse's New Leftism of the 1960s and 1970s and explains how sustainability has become Marcuse's "New Sensibility." In other words, sustainability is the new way of thinking about the world so that we can have liberation, which is to say Communism. Join James in this groundbreaking episode of the New Discourses Podcast to explore this idea at its ominous roots. Support New Discourses: paypal.me/newdiscourses newdiscourses.locals.com/support patreon.com/newdiscourses subscribestar.com/newdiscourses youtube.com/channel/UC9K5PLkj0N_b9JTPdSRwPkg/join Website: newdiscourses.com Follow: facebook.com/newdiscourses twitter.com/NewDiscourses instagram.com/newdiscourses newdiscourses.locals.com pinterest.com/newdiscourses linkedin.com/company/newdiscourses minds.com/newdiscourses reddit.com/r/NewDiscourses Podcast: @newdiscourses podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-…es/id1499880546 bit.ly/NDGooglePodcasts open.spotify.com/show/0HfzDaXI5L4LnJQStFWgZp stitcher.com/podcast/new-discourses © 2021 New Discourses. All rights reserved.

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Alright, hello everyone and welcome to another exciting episode of the new Discourses Podcast

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and another flight not that long after I was reading another piece by him that I haven't mentioned very often counter revolution and revolt which is in the 70s and I got about a third of the way through it and I just was like I can't do this anymore I can't keep reading this guy but it's very important to talk about Herbert Marcusa again and again and again and again because we live in Herbert Marcusa's world and really just reading his

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major works his biggest works of the 50s 60s and I guess 70s you can get a real sense that somebody picked this up meaning mostly the new left that followed him but also certain characters picked this up and saw it as a template for building the world that we live in now we have you could if you were a big

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Marcusa fan you would say that Marcusa was just right but it's very clear that his vision has been forced into being and it did not have to be this way and so we live in the the world of Herbert Marcusa those major works that I reference are

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eros and civilization is 1955 attempt to push Freudian psychoanalysis into Marxian theory and the rough idea of that book not to get too diverted from today's theme which is going to be about the new sensibility

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that Marcusa brought us to and that it's threatening the world now in his vision but the the point of eros and civilization kind of broadly speaking is that the society that we live in this advanced capitalist society being written in 1959 1955 forces people to to to repress their libido to become productive so your libido could be obviously the sexual side your sexual urge is your sexual drives

2:50.2

but it's also kind of you're just will to do things so Freudian libido and they're kind of the same thing and he says that the capitalist society represses the libido the eros is the kind of sexual side of that forces you to to to tamp that down and channel it into productive work and then that productive work that repression I should say actually causes you to become aggressive

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and so the aggression and violence inherent in the capitalist system has its roots in the suppression of eros or of the libido in general so the libido that might be released into the sexual realm is now being released into an aggressive realm a libido dominant you might call a will to dominate

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and so that's kind of his earliest major work less important but in 64 he publishes this book one dimensional man I've talked about this a little bit before I'll read a little bit from it and this is a huge deal.

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He has this idea that the consumer society kind of by the same process I just talked about flatten society into a one dimensional process get up go to work do what you're supposed to make money buy stuff enjoy your life do it again tomorrow and you don't think outside of the box you don't think outside of the pattern that's in front of you and everything in society reinforces that pattern.

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To keep you stuck in it and so you're not doing a critical theory of society anymore you're not doing a critical theory of your own experience in society so you're not becoming a discontented proletariat revolutionary so this is 64 65 you rights repressive tolerance which we did a whole series on here on the new discourses podcast and repressive tolerance is this idea that we have to rethink tolerance because that which maintains this repressive society.

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Which is conservatism generally speaking or right wing thought generally thinking as he defines it that which maintains this repressive society so even the most liberal person on the planet who believe this is going to ring true of what you hear from the radical left all the time.

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I even saw today on Twitter some educator claiming that our completely Marxist schools are currently a center right institution because they're not total wackadoodle leftists and so the point for them is that even if you are this kind of very left liberal character but you believe in the structure of a free liberal democratic society then you're a fascist.

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You want to preserve the status quo of the existing system you want to use incremental progress step by step change so you're actually evil and you are part of the the the right according to their thought that's their definition of the right and this everybody who wants to maintain the existing system instead of overthrowing it for a complete new one.

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And so the left is the people who want to overthrow it for a completely new society the revolutionaries the radical revolutionaries that's the only left everybody else is on the right.

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So you can take your character like my friend Helen Pluckrose for example who is very very ardently left and wants to tell you that she's very left all the time as many people who have encountered our joint work and experienced her personality on social media will know.

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And she is a rightist according to this formulation and repressive tolerance and under Marcusian thought she is an all out conservative rightist even as left liberal as she is and as principal to she is in left liberalism she's a rightist because she still wants to maintain the essential character of our society.

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And the thesis of repressive tolerance is we have to rethink tolerance to be tolerant of the left as understood this way and to be utterly intolerant of the right as understood this way.

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And so you can see how the two sets of rule books idea of our current world the woke have two sets of rule books for example I say a lot on Twitter.

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That's what this means is the double standards the left is to be given tolerance even when they're violent according to Marcusa because violence is justified against a repressive regime that won't allow it any other way the left is supposed to to be outside of the law because the law itself is designed to maintain order and to maintain the existing system.

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So therefore it's all illegitimate so you have to be outside of it that's his argument and again we're talking far left people by normal everyday standards are still going to be considered hardcore rightists by this definition meanwhile he says that you have to censor the right so that they not only can they not be tolerated in their activity and their action and their their their you know anything that they do not only can they not be tolerated but they also have to be censored and pre censored so that the

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