Suspension of the Rules. - Prolific podcaster Andy Mills joins the show today to talk about The Last Invention and more.
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Isaac Saul
4.7 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 12 December 2025
⏱️ 104 minutes
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Summary
Today on Suspension of the rules, Isaac, Ari and Kmele are joined by Andy Mills from the prolific podcast The Last Invention for possibly one of the more important conversational topics we can all be having right now. They talk about the current state of artificial intelligence development and what the future holds and what we should potentially do about it. After that conversation, the guys chat further about the EU v. X controversy, some breaking news about an oil tanker we seized off the coast of Venezuela, and the latest from the Trump administration about checking non citizens social media backgrounds before entering the country. Lastly, a good grievance section where Kmele drops the ball again and forgets the prompt.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up, we've got Andy Mills, one of the most prolific podcasters of the last couple of decades, |
| 0:05.7 | joining us to talk about the last invention. And then Camille, Ari, and I discuss the EU vX controversy. |
| 0:14.1 | The latest from the Trump administration on checking people's social media who's coming into the country, |
| 0:18.6 | as well as some breaking news about an oil tanker |
| 0:21.2 | we've apparently seized off the coast of Venezuela and some grievances where Camille once again |
| 0:26.0 | forgets the prompt. It's a good one. |
| 0:47.0 | Thank you. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the suspension of the rules podcast. |
| 0:52.1 | Last week, a place where none of my co-hosts showed up. This week, a place where they're both here. |
| 0:55.9 | And we have a guest joining us, which I'm really excited about. As many of you know who have been listening to the show for any period of time |
| 1:01.4 | longer than a month, a little while ago, we had a partnership with Andy Mills and Matt Bowles, |
| 1:06.8 | who are, you know, in my view, I think in most people's view, two of the most prolific |
| 1:11.3 | podcast creators of the last two decades. They're responsible for more hit shows than I can list |
| 1:18.1 | here. And we were honored to work with them to get a written piece up about their podcast, |
| 1:22.9 | The Last Invention. Phenomenal show, in my view view about the current state of artificial intelligence development |
| 1:30.6 | and what the future holds and what we should do about it. |
| 1:34.6 | So joining us today is Andy Mills to talk about the last invention and have an existential |
| 1:40.8 | crisis altogether. |
| 1:50.0 | Thank you. have an existential crisis altogether. Andy Mills, welcome to the show. |
| 1:52.0 | Thanks so much for being here. |
| 1:53.5 | Well, thanks for having me, Isaac and Ari and Camille. |
| 1:57.5 | Is it Camille? |
| 1:58.7 | Is it how do you say it? |
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