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The Find Out Podcast

Susan Rice on Trump’s Lawlessness, U.S. Allies, and the Economic Fallout

The Find Out Podcast

Find Out Media & Studio71

News, News Commentary, Government, Politics

4.92K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Former National Security Advisor Susan Rice joins Find Out for a wide-ranging conversation on Donald Trump’s lawlessness and the real-world consequences of his actions—at home and abroad. Trump’s disregard for the rule of law doesn’t stop at U.S. borders. Rice explains how attacking allies, undermining international agreements, and governing through chaos weakens America’s global standing and creates serious economic fallout. From market instability to higher costs for American workers and consumers, this episode connects foreign policy decisions directly to people’s everyday lives. We break down why alliances matter, how trust fuels the global economy, and what happens when the United States becomes an unreliable partner. This is a clear-eyed look at the price of chaos—and why democracy and economic stability are deeply intertwined. 👕 **Merch** made in the USA & union-made: https://findoutpodcast.com 📬 Subscribe to bonus content: https://findoutpodcast.substack.com  📱 Follow us everywhere: @FindOutPodcast   📣 Share this episode & tag us #FindOutPodcast   📥 Send us feedback and tips: hello@findoutpodcast.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Find out podcast.

0:19.0

We have a great, great guest for you today.

0:22.0

Someone that has the experience of many people all wound up into one person. She was the Assistant

0:29.9

Secretary of State for African Affairs, and I actually believe was the youngest Assistant Secretary

0:34.3

at State Department ever. She was also the 27th ambassador to the United

0:39.0

Nations. She was the 23rd National Security Advisor, and I believe the second one for President

0:44.6

Obama, and then went over and was the 22nd director of the Domestic Policy Council at the

0:50.8

White House under Joe Biden. This is Ambassador Susan Rice. Thank you,

0:54.4

Ambassador, for joining us today. It's great to be with you guys. So you are one of the few

0:59.6

people who have sort of sat at the top of government in both foreign policy and domestic policy.

1:05.1

So we want to talk about on the domestic side first, you know, and getting your thoughts on everything that is happening with ICE and with these

1:15.1

insane masked agents coming and snatching people away.

1:20.7

Did you ever in your life imagine that the U.S. government would be used in this way?

1:25.4

Honestly, no.

1:26.1

I mean, what we are seeing is, you know, American federal law enforcement acting like Gestapa

1:36.0

and literally busting into American citizens' homes, ripping people out of their beds

1:43.8

in their, you know, underwear, throwing

1:47.7

them out onto the street, often beating their heads in in the process, by masked men,

1:54.3

and then throwing them in cars and disappearing them, where they can't, you know, access

1:59.0

their lawyers, can't communicate with their families.

2:01.4

Nobody knows where they are or ripped out of their cars, you know, or shot dead in the street

2:07.2

for exercising their First Amendment rights.

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